You Know What Bugs Me About PC Gaming Culture?

You say this, yet you've said remarkably little in this post

 

I'm kinda in the same boat with being unsure about what exactly is the point you guys (Hatok and PAW) are making right now, no offense :<

 

Gonna have to clarify WHICH point you're talking about. this thread has been moving at superspeed all day
Overall, the thing bout the argument I don't like is that it's a bunch if min/maxing. Twenty dollar controller, that'd be nice, but good luck actually finding one. Odds are it'll be dead flimsy too. Need a cheap but powerful computer? Build it yourself. Okay, but that's not a very viable option for the AVERAGE person.
The piracy thing. The implication is that cracks exist proves something about DRM, but there's no way the popularity of anti-DRM cracks outstrips the people who are happy to just use Steam or whatever.
Basically, it's taking a bunch of minorities, and trying to pretend they're majorities, and providing no REAL counter to why that is he case, beyond simply scoffing at people who say otherwise

 

Found this in like 10 seconds.

I don't think we'll come to an agreement on this part, but how is building a cheap but powerful computer not very viable for an average person? From my personal experience, I had zero skill in building computers, but I pretty much figured it out from watching my dad, my brother, and a friend build the one I'm currently using in maybe half an hour with barely any difficulty, and a person can also just look up instructions on the internet free of charge. The biggest skill you need really is reading competence.

I don't really have anything substantial to say on the subject of piracy and cracks. The only time I've really been pissed off about DRM though is being unable to play Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon without logging into uPlay, which is being dismantled anyway.

 

It's not that it's not viable, it;s that people are incredibly lazy, and would rather just go buy a box, from a store they trust, and be done with it
Like, the people who will actually get a computer built compared to the people who will buy a console can't be that comparable, basically.

On the controller thing, I just realized I did a major herp, controllers, and gaming stuff in general lately, are jsut kinda inherently more expensive in Canada, what with our dollar

 

Where are all these assumptions coming from? It's a pretty big generalization to just say "Everyone is lazy, nobody will do so and so" when said people might just disagree with you.

Once again, another assumption based on zero anything. Hell you just made your entire arguement "There's just no way, not possible, no friggin way this is possible"


The problem here is a bunch of huge generalizations based on not much.

 

I'm actually hateful of this thread, it's embarrassing for every body involved. No one has a point, every one is constantly missing facts or saying things that are just terrible, and it's a console war argument but even dumber. Grats guys.

If you're going to argue against consoles, make sure you're arguing against allll consoles. Not just the one you own because maybe others don't behave the way yours does. If you're going to argue against PCs, make sure you don't throw your own experience against the facts or anecdotal evidence will be all over the place. If you're going to be on either side of this argument and not just game on something because you enjoy it, then you're a prick and are actually toxic to the gaming community.

 

Claims that the PC experience is superb and somehow better.
Clearly from first hand experience we disagree, we give examples of DRM, software issues, etc.
I'm waiting for specific counters on points, instead of "You're just generalising and so wrong" counter that keeps coming up

It's the assumption based on console sales in general. Why are they being bought if they're less powerful, less capable, less diverse in services, can't be modded, you have to pay to play online and the games are more expensive? The benefits must be somewhere. Generally, the public use consoles as multi media devices along with gaming. Blu Ray, Netflix, other channel services.
The ease of access to play games is another highlight. When my mate was trying to convince me to get into PC gaming, it took me ages, because the talk of RAM, Hard Drives, Motherboards, I had no clue what was going on. The ease of Xbox plays Xbox games was my thing. The OS of a console and its ease of buying it and plugging it in and your done is a big seller. It's why Steam are doing Steam machines. They've developed Steam OS to be used by non PC gamers trying to get onto the scene by making it more console OS like. Why else develop Steam Machines? It's not for already established PC games who have built a rig.

You might not agree, but you could at least give a counter argument.

 

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I'm not saying either is wrong, but in my opinion, you'd be better off with a PC than a console.

How to build a PC in half an hour

Cheap and easy mode

450 fusking dollars

****'s easy, guys. Don't knock it 'till you try it.

 

Nobody said this
Read the thread

What does ANY of that have to do with being lazy? Nobody in this thread said there was no reason to buy a console, here's what was being said in this thread.
1. It's cheaper.
That's it, in fact the cost of PC gaming was the entire BASIS for why this thread was even made.
PC's do things, Consoles do things. Nobody in this thread was denying any of that, YOU'RE the one that came into this thread and started spouting "GUYS! GUYS! PC'S AREN'T EVEN THAT GOOD" when nobody was even talking about that.
I'm not going to provide counter arguments to someone who couldn't even read TWO POSTS ABOVE THEM before coming into this thread let alone about an argument that NOBODY was having.

 

So whether it's right or wrong isn't the issue, but you're still going to throw your way out there and try to shift people over without them coming to you?

Catholicism.

 

And you're still going to just argue back at everything I say in spite of me?

Immature.

 

I will admit that was harsh considering you were going in the right direction by posting videos and help guides. I'm trying to help you see that instead of recommending people spend paychecks to change up their lifestyle, that these discussions could be opened up to much more interesting topics that is thousands of times better than dick measuring. A lot of people don't know how to build PCs, a lot of people don't want to build PCs but want to be into gaming. There are discussions that could be had over the weird differences in exclusives- consoles trying push graphics and resolutions while PC exclusives tend to be simpler, small scale games that used to be found only on consoles because the consoles themselves were cheaply made. There's also the topic that could be made for quality control on console and PC and why they're so different. Or even why a lot of games don't get PC ports (let's be honest here: It's AMAZING that Killer is Dead is coming to PC)

Tons of things here that are better than YO MY WAY IS BETTER THAN YOUR WAY.

 

What's wrong with recommending things that you like to people?
If they don't care then they won't listen to it, if they do then they will.
Isn't that how is usually works?

 

you guys are getting way too heated for this

 

Just want to state that I in no way am on one side or another of this perceived "console vs. PC" debate. I was simply trying to explain some things that I felt needed explaining, which just so happened to be more about PC's than about consoles. I like my PS3 and Wii too, though, and would never get rid of them because they're more portable and are easier to use for local multiplayer *shrug*

Bro...can we not go here?

 

Did you know that console are just PC's but not at the same time?
I mean, most consoles use similar software to what you can get on a PC, that is why you can emulate a lot of things really well.
But at the same time, you can't emulate every game perfectly because of the differences that are still present on PC's and consoles.

Also why are you guys getting so dang heated about PC vs consoles anyway?

 

Hoooly batteries guys. You you don't all calm the frog down I'm gonna request this topic be closed.
Be civil

 

WAIT YOU LIKE YOUR WII NOW?

 

YEAH BECAUSE AN HD CABLE AND A NON-SHITTY TV MAKE MORE OF A DIFFERENCE THAN I THOUGHT.