358/2 Days Xion's fate

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  1. int2646 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Xion turned into a male Sora? O.O
    So she turned to a he?
    This just gets weirder.
     
  2. Shenglong20XX Moogle Assistant

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    OK, Be all and end all of my opinion on this latest theory.

    - Xemnas creates Xion to store Sora's memories, and hopefully be able to work with Roxas to help with the Kingdom Hearts recreation project.
    - Xion, instead of turning out to be a 'second twin' to Sora, ends up a near-twin of Kairi.
    - As Namine works on the leak, Xion's personality and appearance slightly changes, causing Xion's face to briefly look like Sora.
    - She eventually goes crazy, wanting to be the 'true' Keyblade Master, not caring about Sora or Roxas, and turns into the boss in the videos.
    - Roxas absorbs the memories inside her, leaving only Xion's own memories, which aren't strong enough to sustain a physical form.
    - There is no 'Xion = Sora' or 'Xion = Kairi'... Xion is Xion... a amalgam of bits and pieces, tossed aside in a attempt to make Namine Sora's girlfriend during a plan that went south.
     
  3. int2646 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Wow... Xion being good and slowly going mad.... All she wanted was exsistance
    I have to admit KH's story is slowly becoming a Square masterpiece.
     
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    The truth is proven!

    That explains why in the original pics of Xion, her face was lighter when she had the hood off.
    I always thought it was the shadow of the hood that made her face darker
     
  6. fire mage Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Ok, then but how did Xenmas accomplish this? Did he secretly take Kairi something to his lab?
     
  7. No.

    I need to make this clear, since it's garbled again.

    Xion's an imperfect clone of Sora created from his leaked memories by Xemnas, as a fail-safe in case Sora proved to be useless to Organization XIII's plans. As Sora's memories are the basis and component of her being, Xion only appears as a female because she resembles Kairi, who was Sora's strongest memory at the time of her birth. Thus, why she looks like her, and takes on other forms as Sora's memories pile up and keep leaking into her. In reality she is either male, due to her being a clone of one, or genderless. It is revealed that the whole research and experimentation for Castle Oblivion that we all heard about was to make Keyblade-wielding Sora replicas. Xion, in other words, was a prototype, and was "No. I" of the Replica Project [dun dun dun, her name].

    Xemnas had many chances to sample Sora's memories. However, if you all remember KH1:FM, where you first battle Xemnas [who was not known as such at the time], he passed right through Sora, the same way Marluxia did in Chain of Memories.

    I think it's self-explainable after this.
     
  8. fire mage Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I knew that Castle Oblivion was developing clones as it kind of restated it in with the Vexen clones in the manga. So in a twisted fashion it was a same idea except with an different target.


    Oh how can I be so stupid, that was another theory I had one time, a while ago, but I ignored my instinct of it. Crud....

    Still it doesn't explain the knight armor that Xion wears. (Unless it has something to do with Ven). We know that Xenmas has it though in the KH 2 game.
     
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    And who would of ever thought that? I was surprised and laughed really hard when I saw who Xion really was. Now I know the reason why Organization XIII kept their name the same since Xion was never a nobody. How freaky is that? *shudders*

    About her element though, the light looked like crystals or glass once her body gave off the appearance of a frozen state. Did anyone else think this?
     
  10. Vaxing Twilight Town Denizen

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    aha! i was having a hard time figuring out WHEN Xemnas sampled the memories. KH:FM makes perfect sense though. it finally gives a concrete reason for Xemnas showing up. and it isn't that far away from when Roxas was created (I actually never played FM so if that fight happans before or after the final Riku fight I don't know but in either case Roxas was picked up first and Xion a week later).
     
  11. mudstripe Twilight Town Denizen

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    Yea, I think that's all right, except for the dual wield part. Is that really what happened? I thought Roxas could always dual wield.
     
  12. Xenliad Merlin's Housekeeper

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    This is what Nomura said:

    Source: http://www.khinsider.com/days-ultimania/358-2-days-scenario-interview.html
     
  13. Clear_so_you_can't_See Traverse Town Homebody

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    Close, the last part is wrong. Roxas doesn't absorb her he absorbs the power she left behind, hence he gained the ability to duel wield. Everything else is true. :ninja:
     
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    That power was originally borrowed from Roxas. Her form is based off links connected to Sora(Roxas sees her as Kairi until his memories of Sora start becoming more...er...powerful). Someone had told her(Axel? I forgot.) that when she was getting stronger, she was simply borrowing more from Roxas. Xemnas even said that if Roxas defeated Xion, he would get all his power back. So technically he could have used two keyblades if she was never created. I don't know any other reasons why she was kept around other than to keep Sora asleep and have a copy of Roxas(she's not a Sora clone, she mimicks Roxas's powers...which just so happened to belong to Sora). ...Oh wait, that's all she needs to be. XD
     
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    No, he doesn't see her as Kairi. It's implied that he sees her specifically as Xion, because it's his interaction with her that gives her an identity. If he saw her as Kairi, we'd see Kairi when the focus was on him.

    She was kept around because she was an amazing success; a greater success than they had intended. They wanted someone to collect hearts, and it was no doubt noticed that Roxas could be uncooperative at times. As well, they may have been planning to create Xion before Roxas was even created. Either way, as was said in the game: Once they realized the two were dividing power between each other, they decided one needed to die; they didn't care which one.

    Actually, she was a clone of Sora, just of his fragmented memories. She mimicked Sora's powers after his memories from different worlds were siphoned and granted to her through the machines in the endgame.

    Concerning dual wielding... That ability is called Synch Blade, and if the KH wikia can be trusted, any Key Bearer can do it. Whether Xion's existence robbed Roxas of his ability to do so or he simply didn't know until he'd defeated her is debatable, as is Xion's ability or inability to do so as an essentially fake Key Bearer.
     
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    Oh yeah. My bad. I wasn't paying attention. I mean that Roxas sees Xion like...Xion because of Kairi(they look almost the same).

    She was specifically stated to be mimicking Roxas's powers(hence why Roxas grew weaker over the course of the story until he finally killed her). That much I remember.

    Xion probably could have used Synch Blade if she had defeated Roxas and gained all of his power. Either way, one thing is certain. ...Roxas is the most badass user of that ability. =p
     
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    Fair enough. I think I misunderstood your meaning the first time. What I took to mean "powers" were the in-game skills she displayed in her boss fight.

    Perhaps. That would mean she was essentially a true Key Bearer, at least as much as Roxas is. It's all very ambiguous, but Roxas behaves like one.

    Agreed. Roxas makes dual-wielding look so right. <3

    Sora should stick to Anti. I love Anti so much. When I found out you guys figured out how to make it behave like a regular Drive Form, I nearly shat myself.
     
  18. Zeonark Kingdom Keeper

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    1. Correct.
    2. Correct.
    3. Correct.
    4. Correct.

    No it isn't implied. It's a fact. Otherwise, Xion wouldn't have a face to him or have a different face.

    She isn't a clone. Well, in a way she is. She's his leaked memories. So in a way, a clone and not a clone. And she probably could use those attacks without the machines, the machines amplified her power. Not made her remember Sora's moveset. :S

    I don't know why everyone won't agree. Sora looks terrible with Dual Wield compared to Roxas.

    Screw your Anti. I have Limit.
     
  19. Ars Nova Just a ghost.

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    She was not "shaped after Kairi;" her similarities to Kairi were misdirection on Nomura's part. I'm pretty sure he's already come out and said this. Kairi is his favorite red herring.

    We've been over this: He has to have been able to do it before, because it's just an ability Key Bearers have. Whatever bearing Xion's siphoning his power had on his ability to use Synch Blade, absorbing her power (if he did so at all; nothing is clear except that he got his own power back) did not grant him that ability on its own.

    I will make darkness explode out of your Limit's orifices and dance a merry jig on its corpse. >:E
     
  20. Zeonark Kingdom Keeper

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    Now if only he would stop milking Kairi and actually use HER herself.

    If I'm correct, something in the japanese version implied/confirmed it. Plus, just because Key Bearers have the ability, it doesn't mean it can't be tapped into. Absorbing/Whatever dealing with Xion possibly tapped into his power to Dual Wield. I doubt it was granted on it's own, like you said.

    ...

    Limit + Anti? Is that what you're implying?
     
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