358/2 Days Xion

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  1. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    Well I see what you mean with the whole emotion thing...as for the keyblade weilding: why would a heartless be able to weild the thing that kills them...? Seems like a possible plot hole.

    Also, the whole nobodies weilding keyblades thing: its THE keyblade. Other weapons may or may not be chosen through the heart (I doubt it) but this one is. You have to have a heart to weild it...otherwise Riku could have taken the keyblade from Roxas.

    Also, I don't think the somebodies' weapon just appears with the nobody. The starting 6 org members were simply scientists, not fighters...they got weapons anyway.
     
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    Well remember, Roxas only summons them from nowhere. If you look back on the Roxas and Sora battle cutscene, you'll see that Roxas is surprised when Sora recalls his Keyblade. Maybe Roxas can't do that because he isn't a true keyblade wielder. He could have just been borrowing Oathkeeper and Oblivion from Sora while he was asleep.

    And just because you're a heartless doesn't mean you can't wield a Keyblade. There is nothing that says that.
     
  3. Sorcerer_Jenkins Twilight Town Denizen

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    explain Namine
     
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    Namine is a Nobody. Just because you can't have a heartless, doesn't mean you can't have a Nobody. Namine was created when Kairi's heart went in Sora. Being of pure heart, her heart couldnt' turn into a Heartless. So, when she lost it, it went to the nearest body, Sora. And when her heart went to Sora, her body and spirit became Namine.
     
  5. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    But you can fight Roxas with Oathkeeper and Oblivion (one or the other since there are no drives.)

    Also Sora summons his keyblade seemingly from nowhere which I imagine is the normal way it's used. Both Roxas and Sora (aside from Roxas in twilight town) summon the keyblade in the same way.

    Also I just realized that Sora could not have been a heartless throughout kh2...Kairi "restores" Sora by hugging him, in which a bright light flashes, repelling all the other heartless. Since Kairi has the purity and light due to the fact that shes a princess of heart, that would have killed Sora if he were a heartless. Ansem (Xehanort's Heartless) died from just a sliver of light hitting him.
     
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    No, you don't get Oblivion until after the fight. Also, there is a possibility that the Roxas you fight isn't real, since Donald and Goofy don't see him.

    Yeah, but Roxas can't summon the keyblades from far away from him to his hand like Sora can. The only time he did it was before fighting Axel the first time and that Keyblade was just made of data.

    She doesn't resore him, she brings his mind back into the light and he regains his old form. Also, just because he's a heartless doesn't mean he'd be hurt by light. He is a warrior of light himself, so it'd be pretty stupid if he got hurt by it. XH was a warrior of darkness so he was defeated by light. Also, he didn't die, he just went into hibernation inside Riku.
     
  7. XienZo Traverse Town Homebody

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    I believed the Roxas battle was confirmed to be a mental battle.

    Could Sora really have been a heartless through CoM? I thought some Organization members stated he WAS a heartless, but not anymore, not to mention that Sora was missing some traits of heartless.

    Edit: Also, Namine isn't a nobody according to DiZ:
    She is a "non-being" in the truest sense of the word; having not even become a Nobody and with nowhere left to go, she is but the most fleeting of shadows.
     
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    No one mentioned that he was no longer a Heartless and the only mentioning of him being a Geartless was when Larxene called him a "heartless" hero. As for the traits, which ones are you referring to?

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    Don't quote me on this, but I think Nomura said that Namine and Roxas were both special Nobodies.
     
  9. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    Well of course, goofy and donald dont see Roxas, they dont see him at the Altar of Naught either, but he still merged with Sora then, meaning he was real. Riku also saw Roxas. And aside from the fact you dont get oblivion until after, that doesnt explain the two oathkeepers.

    We dont know this. Although I'm 90% sure through my intuition that Roxas can.

    I'm just going to go with the whole keyblade thing for this one. Heartless dont have hearts. Therefore, they cannot weild the keyblade. They are creatures formed from darkness enveloping the heart, yes, but they dont have hearts themselves. Leon says himself, the heartless are "those without hearts" it may seem a little weird, I admit, but based on that the keyblade cannot choose heartless. Which is what I was ultimately getting at, although I couldnt find the words for it...


    Yes he did...(I'm like 85% sure XD) which lead me to thinking they had hearts...
     
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    Didn't think of that. But as another poster said, it's been practically confirmed that the battle took place in Sora's mind, like a battle for control.

    Well, seeing as he was shocked that Sora could do it, I would assume he couldn't.

    Well, XH and Sora are special Heartless, since they still have human form. So, it could be possible that the darkness around their hearts is weaker than normal Heartless and so it's almost like they never lost their hearts. That could be why Sora could use the Keyblade still. This is all speculation, of course. But it could be possible. Especially since Sora changed back from Kairi's light. It could have weakened the darkness around his heart and allowed him to take human form again and wield the Keyblade, while still being a Heartless.
     
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    Accauly I Theory. Xion is In Imperfect Replica of Sora's Leaked Memories. and Took The Form of Sora's Strongest Memory, Kairi Herself. Before Battling Xion She's Takes Sora's Form and Attempts To Kill Roxas As A Way Of Becoming A Real Person, carelessly preventing sora from ever awakening. Likely a side effect from Sora's Memories pouring onto Xion. I Know She Cant Possibly Endure It. Besides KH-VIDS I Saw some KH Fans Going GO! MARY SUE GO! Which is Just Wierd. I dont really know who mary sue is but i dont want to change the subject. The Reason Why Xion is left out in KH2 Or 1 is because either Nomura Didn't Come up with the idea or Xion Wasn't a part of sora's Memory. anyway don't mind me... i'm just saying hi!
     
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