Birth by Sleep Xehanort not Xehanort?

Xehanort is not a Nobody... Ansem the Wise has NEVER had a Nobody...

 

Xehanort is a confusing guy.

But we need short terms for all the different Xehanorts.

MX = Master Xehanort
AX = Apprentice Xehanort
HX = Heartless Xehanort.

Okay?

Also, when was it confirmed that old guy in the trailer was Xehanort? I would like to see the interview.

 

Look in the first set of scans that came out... one of them has headshots of several BBS characters... including the old geezer... labeled as Master Xehanort...

 

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I am a newbie to the site...

How do I find these scans?

 

Look in the news archive... it'd be something about 'new project scans'...

http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?t=28322

This is the one...

 

Ah. I suppose it is in Japanese...

Anyway, proof enough, I just wanted to see the source.

Thanks.

Now, about Terra, is the eye change enough to pridict his stance on darkness?

 

No... to me, it just looks like a powerboost...

 

He used a lot of Oil of Olay cream. It reduces 7 signs of aging.

Yes, I agree that Master Xehanort could not be the Xehanort Ansem healed up and tested.

 

Lolol... funny mental image there... Master Xehanort covering himself in facial cream...

 

*moan*

I really hope this is not leading to what I think it is...

I thought Time Travel could stick to a minimum in this game...

Ah well, I can only hope it is done right.

Wait, new thought coming in, could kingdom hearts grant Xehanort his youth?

So far, we need Ways he can become AX.

1. Possession: he can possess someone, and impose his features on them.
2. Magic: He regains his youth via Kingdom hearts.
3. Off spring: The Dark soldier is actually just a fragment of himself, the DS becomes AX after MX is killed.

 

I was thinking that if the guy who merged with Riku is the 'real' Xehanort's Heartless, that he de-aged because of being inside 'Xehanort' who took Ansem's name and also became Xemnas. I don't think time travel is involved, at least not yet and in a way I hope it doesn't evolve to that. I do think the Heartless is the 'real' Master Xehanort's heartless but that's how I add things up so far and hope it's right.

 

Personally, I think the Xehanort we know WAS Master Xehanort's apprentice... but the guy we see in the BBS movie is merely a PART of him...

 

Part of him ???
but i agree with you

 

Well, look at it this way... What was the Xehanort we know missing? His memories... One of the phrases at the end of Sunset Horizons aka Gathering was 'Memory of Xehanort'... Nomura said that the phrases at the end of that movie were particularly important... so I'm thinking 'Memory' should be examined very closely lol

 

i think xehanort's heartless is master xehanort, before he possessed Riku, he has no body , only a spirit..

 

Hi bro... Heh, anyways, what I find the strangest about that is that it's 'Memory of Xehanort'... not 'MemorIES of Xehanort'... KH is becoming kinda renowned for taking normal phrases and turning them into the name of a species, so what if the term 'Memory' is intended to mean a creature created from someone's memories -probably forcibly removed...?

Another thing to help with that is that 'Memory's wouldn't have much in the way of a physical form, as the body would still be with the person they were taken from... And it may mean that there are much more than we'd realise... coz what is the one similarity ALL Nobodies have -sans the lack of a heart? No memories of their previous life (Xigbar excluded here, chances are he'd've gone on recon missions)... It's not just Xemnas and Roxas who didn't remember...

Heh, never know... that might be what the new creatures we see Terra fighting in the BBS scans are? Not to mention... maybe Sora didn't even fight the REAL Terra in FMII... he acted real weird, after all... Like "Okay, we've fought... *kneels back down* now go away."

I reckon that's what the apprentice is... the Memory of 'Xehanort' (the Xehanort we've known up 'til finding out about Baldy)

 

I think MX's heart survied and sacrifice part of its memories to create a new body to continue with the plans, but, it din't expect to find out that he would be more powerless. Also, maybe Xemnas by wanting a "heart" means that hes seeking the rest of his memories to be able to remember the rest of his past. Also, in one of the new scenes from KH2FM, the scene with xigbar and zexion they were talking of the room where xemnas sleeps. Xigbar said "If theres a Room of Sleep, then theres a Room of Awekening! "Maybe this is what Xemnas is after! The Room of Awekening must be a place where memories of a person are. This must be where the rest of MX's memories are.

 

Whether or not his heart survived doesn't change the fact that the timeline is INCOMPATIBLE with Master Xehanort being the Xehanort we know...

 

Yeah, this is why I think the 'Xehanort' that Riku had with him was the Heartless of 'baldy' Master Xehanort, because he looks much different from Xemnas/Xehanort. The scents of Riku and Xemnas were similar as Zexion said which would suggest that the Heartless was in Xehanort/Xemnas and developed it and I think that's also how it was 'de-aged'. I 'think' the apprentice is Xemnas/Xehanort and the Heartless was a part of Baldenort. Either that or Terra was Xemnas/Xehanort and the Heartless was Baldenort because the clothes and eyes match up with Master Xehanort that the Heartless 'Ansem' had...and man, this gets confusing. At this point I wonder if it's a slide even to say the Heartless was the apprentice and Xemnas was Terra, but I think that might be stretching it too thin.

 

You didn't read... I said the TIMELINE, not appearance... the Xehanort we know was already amnesiac, with silvery hair at Hollow Bastion by the time BBS starts...

And how are 'Ansem' and Xemnas THAT different in appearance? They are as similar in appearance as Sora and Roxas... Kairi and Namine...