Will you wear white tomorrow?

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  1. KeybladeSpirit [ENvTuber] [pngTuber]

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    As many of us know, tomorrow is the anniversary of the Roe v. Wade. decision. Many look back and celebrate while others (myself included) mourn over the lives lost as a result of the decision. So where do you stand? Will you wear the color of new life or shrug it off like no big deal? Will you celebrate? Cry? Or treat it as just another Friday?

    I for one am going to wear white and quietly mourn through the whole day.
     
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    I will not, because I am not one of the many who know about the 'Roe v. Wade.' decision. I'm going to assume it's specifically a USA thing.
     
  3. Scarred Nobody Where is the justice?

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    Wow, I didn't know that tomorrow is the aniversary of the decission. I am personally against abortion because it does mean the death of a human life. We are all given our destenies before we are born. Taking away a human life is like taking away a future teacher, philosopher, scientist, or someone who could've been an activist. If my parents had known that I would've had my condition before I was born, there's a good chance that I would've been one of those millions of lives lost.

    People generally think that because there is something wrong with you that you are not worth keeping. There are probablilities that someone will come out with Downs Syndrome, so they decide to just abort him. I've heard stories where that was the case, but the parents kept him and he turned out perfectly normal. I wasn't suppose to live past a few months after my birth, which would've caused terrible trama to my parents. Eighteen years later, I'm still here.

    We live in a world where we have the right to make a choice. I think I have the right to tell people about the consequences about your decission. Whatever the case, there is always an innocent person in the middle.

    It's basically a decission that gives a woman a choice into aborting a baby.
     
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    I didn't even know what the 'Roe vs. Wade.' decision until you said that, tummer. Honestly, I never knew that there was an anniversary about women being given the choice to have an abortion. I never knew that it was even a decision that came from a federal(?) court case. I thought that abortion came out when they (doctors and such) found out that women can get rid of a baby while it is still inside of her. I thought that was why Catholic churches are doing all kinds of things to stop abortion, such as protesting outside of abortion clinics. Now that I know this, I am going to wear white tomorrow and say prayers for all of the unborn children.
     
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    No, I don't plan on wearing white.
    While I don't condone abortions in certain cases, I agree with the court decision.

    Even if I didn't, I wouldn't wear a certain color on the anniversary of every monumental court decision.


    Btw, I like your rhetoric.
    You're separating the beliefs right down the middle. Roe v. Wade was a big deal, but not because of the "loss of life." So yeah, to me, it's just another Friday. Today (or was it yesterday?) was the anniversary of hostages being released in Iran. It was still another day of the week.
     
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    I'm going to stop you right there. Abortion has been around since before the ancient Babylonians. If you think abortion is new by any means, you've got a lot to learn.
     
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    Personally, I think the Romans had the best method. They'd just leave the unwanted kid in the garden, to starve to death. Killing was illegal, but not providing was fine.
     
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    It doesn't matter what a court ruling says, abortions would still be done even if it was illegal to do in all cases.

    I'm a vegetarian, and if a court decision was made today to forbid the consumption of all animal-derived products, I would not support it. This type of ruling is a threat to our traditional freedom to choose how we live our lives. So no, I will not be wearing white.
     
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    So where's the memorial of the people killed by religious terrorists in the name of God thanks to the decision? If all life is sacred, why is the majority of the religious right all for war and the death penalty as well as against anything that preserves the lives of those who have already been born? There is a lot of hypocrisy on the side of the "pro-life" crowd and I have yet to see any memorial of the victims of said hypocrisy.

    That said, I see abortion as a necessary evil and that there are reasons for it t be legal, not to mention the fact that banning it would be a breach of civil rights. At the same time however, with the exception of late term abortions, aborted fetuses are simply potential human lives. Until brain activity starts, its not human. Its just a parasite that will potentially become human.
     
  10. MadDoctorMaddie I'm a doctor, not a custom title!

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    This.
    I'm not fully pro-choice, and I think that abortion should be used only as a last resort. However, I do think that women who want, or even need an abortion should be able to have a safe chance for it, without being judged and demonized for their choice. I for one am in no place to cast the first stone.
     
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    What kind of anniversary is that?
     
  12. Peyton Goddess Of Love ♥

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    I suppose you don't feel the least bit sorry for all the kids with ****** life situations that for example are put on the street, starving to death or suffer in pain from terrible disases?
    Yeah, those kids could have been aborted, and yet they're alive and suffering. Just a little something for you to think about when you go around mourning.

    There are many kids that shouldn't have been aborted, but having a choice does at least spare a lot of kids of a terrible life, without dignity. Being given the choice to do what seems the best for another human being is also a gift you know. So no, I will not be wearing white.
     
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    I support abortion, primarily because it's really quite convenient to be able to get rid of an unwanted pregnancy. Even so, I dislike that argument. If they decide they want out of life, then they can make an exit themselves. There's still a good chance of them living a healthy, productive life in their situation. I can't accept the idea that you're doing anyone a favour by denying their existence before they even exist. They can choose afterwards, and it ends up with the same result.

    That said, I have nothing against abortion. I just think it should be acknowledged that it's for personal gain, and not because you care for the unborn child.
     
  14. Peyton Goddess Of Love ♥

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    Fine, that's your opinion. I however feel like when people are given a choice, like getting to have an abortion, people should make that decision with both their head and heart, not because it's "quite convenient". Some shouldn't be aborted, that's true, but if whoever is pregnant know they won't be able to provide or give their future child a chance to do well in life, well of course other than comitting suicide which you present like a jolly good option, then I say being aborted doesn't sound so bad. It is not the same result, someone actually suffered through that life first and had to go trough the pain of killing them selves, and possibly hurting others while doing so, you know. Therefore I think as long as both the head and heart thinks through the option of abortion, and the wellbeing of a potential child, then abortion isn't wrong, in my opinion.
     
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    I'd like to bring up a few points that haven't yet been said. You're not killing anyone by having an abortion, especially if it's in a relatively early stage of pregnancy. That may be a living thing in the womb, but it's not a human life, it's a fetus. You're not robbing it of a future because its future hasn't even started yet. Also, what about all the people who were raped? Do you think they would want to keep the children of a rapist? They most likely would not be ready for a child, and yet a decision that they're going to have a baby is practically already being made for them. Don't you think rape victims should have some choice whether or not they themselves have a child? That's why I'm pro-choice. In abortion cases like what I've described, it's not losing a life to have an abortion. It's giving a life back to the mother.
     
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    You're denying the children a chance of having a good life at all. The high chance that they'll end up unhappy/dead is turned into a certainty if you abort. If you wait, and let the children try for itself, then they can attempt to find happiness by themselves.

    It's not 100% certainty that the children will have a horrible failure of a life. As such, I think it's too early to start mercy-killing them. To have to endure a bit of pain in life before getting the chance to take the easy exit seems like a small trade-off in return for having a chance to make their own futures.
     
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    P is right. Again.

    I will not wear white because I don't really care. I don't see why I should care for abortion unless it involves me.
     
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    Because you were once a fetus and your mother had the same "right" to abort you?

    And to add to P's point: Adoption says hi!
     
  19. Twilight Knight Traverse Town Homebody

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    But I wasn't because she wanted me.
     
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    I don't support abortion. But I didn't/won't wear white either. I don't know, it feels like the same thing as homosexuals going around for that Gay Pride day, when heterosexuals don't take a day to flaunt how heterosexual they are. (I know an argument might be that they do that every day, but seriously.) I might be anti-abortion, but I don't see any reason to go around parading it, or making people who are pro-abortion feel like murderers.

    Despite any argument in this thread, I still do believe that abortion is taking a life away from a child, and a future away. "It's a fetus so it doesn't matter", is an invalid statement in my eyes because it's a fetus growing and changing into a baby. We were all "just a fetus". Imagine your mother having got an abortion, when you were "just a fetus", and all of this now and all of this future would have be terminated.

    The larger percent of women who are raped actually keep the baby. You don't have to abort, to not keep the baby. There are other options, even for those who feel like they couldn't handle childbirth or raising a child, there are other options rather than vaginal birth, and there is adoption. If you feel like a child would ruin your life, you could bless someone else with a child that they couldn't have otherwise.

    For the "bad life" argument, that's completely arrogant, in my opinion. Everyone has a chance at a bad life, and a good one. Like I said, there are other options. What about the FAILED abortions? Have you ever thought of that? They DO exist. How awful do you think THAT feels? People with perfectly good families and homes can end up miserable too. People with terrible families and homes can end up with successful lives, becoming an inspiration to many to keep moving forward. Life is a *****, an ABORTION doesn't save you from it. It just robs you of the chance to rise above it and help others with the pain that you've experienced.

    Also, think of the people you've influenced positively in your life. If you weren't here, were never here, that person would have been robbed a friend, or a shoulder to cry on, or an ear to listen to.

    Take in account that these are all my personal opinions, not trying to start a flame war, it's just how I see things. There are just other options besides "aborting" something you created, I especially see no excuse for people who just ****ed up and want an easy fix. Rape is a very traumatic thing to go through, so when it comes to that, or even when you have intercourse, and find out later that your partner has some incurable STD or something that will be passed onto your child, I understand that sort of thing. So I'm not out to call pro-choice people awful, or murderers, but I think that if you see one side of the story, you should see the other. If you're not ready for a child, you can give them to a family who wants them. You don't have to rob them of a future, imo.


    Edit: Oh. Wow, I completely missed something but I found it a tad hypocritical that someone said that it wasn't taking away a future to kill a fetus, but if that future would have been bad (aka: them being miserable), then aborting would have saved them from that future?