358/2 Days Wii kingdom hearts game

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX' started by Scarred Nobody, Apr 18, 2008.

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  1. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    LMAO exactly. Console wars FTL, people. Please...
     
  2. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Hahahahahhahaahhahaahahhahaha nice one! But I just don't like them because of this war that's happening! PS3 vs Wii, PS3 vs Xbox 360, and all of them is vs PS3 what PS3 did to them and I think that PS3 is the best console ever none other console can read Blue Ray disks and that in few years the whole planet will have Blue Ray disks that's then yes I want a PS3 I don't have one but I am getting on summer!
     
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    God... Stupid blind fanboyism.

    KH3 4 Wii
     
  4. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    kh for wii: terrible.

    One of the amazing things about the kh battle system is the almost imposible moves sora pulls off, or the aerial combos or even reaction commands. If the wii translated to the "keyblade" for kh3 or whatever it would be a mess. Terrible. Elaborate combos turned into simple slashes. aka, crap. theres no way i would accept kh for the wii. I love the wii, but kh+wii will not work out. kingdom hearts would lose one of the major aspects that make it look awesome. imagine pulling off riku's air combo from kh2 with a wii controller. how could you? based on the type of game it is, kingdom hearts is like 70% battle system (fighting), 10% plot, 20% graphics+sound. you screw up the battle system, the game is done for.

    Personally, I think that kingdom hearts would be best on the ps3 or 360. 360 is a stretch but tons of ps2 games have began to turn to microsoft (devil may cry, anyone?), its certainly better than putting it on the wii...call me a fan boy, and ill call you a dumbass. (only if u call me a fan boy)
     
  5. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Oh please grow up kids Wii is for babies! I like KH3 (or whatever) but I wanna play it on PS3 with the high 3D graphics!
     
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    Wii KH would not need to be motion controlled... It could be normal buttons, or gamecube control. Kh did not start off with the slick combos, it used to be fine as kh1.

    As for wii being for babies. Look around you. You are on a site about a game with Disney in it, the main character being a typical happy kid who believes in himself. I have no problem with this, but calling something babyish here is like shooting a gun in a room full of petrol.

    Also, I have a song you may like... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R98qC0fd_1w

    Okay, that was overdoing it... But it proves that arguing over the best console is silly. All the consoles have different points. Games, price, audience, sound, visual, control and form, just to name a few.
     
  7. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    There is no "war" going on, the "Console War" is a completely fabricated idea of console fanboys who have to pledge allegiance to a piece of hardware, and at the same time declare their electronic like a godsend, the the Company behind the electronic as some almighty entity without fault.

    Blu-Ray is a movie-playing format, so whether another video game console can read Blu-Ray discs is not relevant, because Blu-Ray is for movies and not video games. No other console can use the Wii Remote, and no other console can use Xbox Live, all 3 consoles have things that the other console can't do.

    It took 7 years for the VHS to be overtaken by the DVD after the DVD was introduced, the Blu-Ray may not become a worldwide standard until 5 years from now.

    Actually, I'd say those are the worst things about the KH Combat System, and one of the main reasons Kingdom Hearts 1 and Chains of Memories were infinitely better than KH2.

    You know the most violant video game to date, Manhunt 2, is a Wii game?

    Uhh, every Next-Gen console is capable of 3D graphics.
     
  8. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    there is somewhat of a war going on...I have to respectfully dissagree with your statement...although most of it is composed of fanboys there are some smart people out there who debate the quality of each system. This may not count for much, but Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction had a small tribute to that "war" in which 3 characters, who represented the wii, 360 and ps3 fought among themselves endlessly...(lol).


    perhaps in your opinion...but kh2 got a better score than kh1 did on several gaming sites and other critics... Gamespot for one, gave kh2 an 8.7 while it gave kh1 an 8.2.

    EDIT: why isnt this in the game section of this forum o.O? its not even about 358 days anymore, xD

    most games that had been on other systems beforehand that came to the wii, have the main reason behind doing so because they want their game to be motion controlled. If this wasnt the reason for kh3, what would stop nomura from putting kh3 on the 360 or ps3? gamecube has the crappiest controller out of all of them. =/
     
  9. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    Yes, that is my opinion, hence why I said "I'd say", but that's not a reason to disregard my point.

    To me, mashing X a couple times and suddenly Sora doing a 100 hit combo is not a good thing, I'm not doing anything, it's just the game translating like 3 button presses into a 15 different attacks on screen, so I don't see why is this a good thing. Maybe it satisfies people with ADD? Oh, pretty colors, and the lack of need for brain activity is fun for the whole family?

    Atleast in KH and COM combos were calculated and controlled, you didn't lose control of Sora for 3 whole seconds while he shoots lasers just because you pressed 1 time too many. To me, you were actually in control of the combo. In KH2 you can close your eyes and press X really hard, and when you open them 10 seconds later the entire room will be cleared of Heartless, this does not seem like a wonderful improvement to me, it's removing player involvement in the combat making it practically automated.

    If this is what should be considered a good thing about what the series has become, then I have low expectations for the series' future =\ I'm only mildly hopeful for 358/2 Days simply because it's supposed to feel more like KH1, I'd rather have that instead of reaction commands, 20 second air combos, and limit attacks that you practically have time to go get a drink while you wait for them to be over.
     
  10. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    First of all Blue-Ray disks are not just for movies the games on PS3 are made on Blue-Ray and that makes them with good sound and quality and size! So now the games can be much bigger because Blue-Ray disks have somewhere 25-50 GB! Also I think that Wii remote is kinda boring as long the Eye-Toy Play came out! Also maybe not Xbox live but PS3 can use some kind of internet too! Forgot something... the guy who made wii said that he made to attract kids!
    And I know that these consoles can play 3D graphics but PS3 for now has the best 3D graphics witch makes them like real!
     
  11. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    I'm aware that the disc format is being used for Games, what I pointed out is that the advantage of having a Blu-Ray player in the PS3 is for movies, and that nothing is being gained for the games. When someone asks what's cool about the Blu-Ray being in the PS3, what's the answer?"Well, I can now play Blu-Ray movies now". That's it. The advantage of the Blu-Ray player in the SP3 is: cool, I can watch movies now. Well congratulations, but I'm playing games here.

    You are correct in that Blu-Ray discs have much larger disc space, the problem here is that no developer is creating video games that need that amount of space, because standard games have still not broken the 10GB space barrier. So, Blu-Ray discs are needlessly expensive to produce, and provide space that games aren't really using, and in the end the only advantage of having it in the console is so that it can play better movies, not games.

    The Wii was made to expand the video game market and allow a wider audience of people to play games, not "attract kids", it was made to attract everyone into playing games, that way gaming can expand into a larger medium.

    And no "guy" made the Wii, it was an entire company called Nintendo.

    Actually, the Xbox 360 has a more powerful Graphics Processing Chip, so technically speaking the 360 is capable of rendering more polygons then the PS3. Though, the PS3 has a more powerful Cell Processing Chip, which means that it can process information easier.
     
  12. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    well if your opnion is so strong against the upcoming khs, wouldnt it be better if u didnt play them? And while we're on that, debate about them even? I'd have to say with pretty strong evidence that your an anomaly (sp?) when it comes to the battle system...Im not saying its some divine gift from god but honestly...to get off topic and say why it was bad...?

    just dont play the games =.=

    Despite the fact this is your so emphasized opinion, this point can be disregarded unless you make another thread...O_O

    there are only 2 automated combos in kingdom hearts when sora is out of drive form, being slapshot and slide dash...just unequip them...hell, if u want the "old" kh fighting style unequip all abilities and play with the ones sora comes with at level 1...or play limit form...
     
  13. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    I'm just saying;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSfJSBwaXF8

    KH1 Sephiroth battle. What's this? You press X, adn Sora doesn't automatically just fly over to the enemy somehow with an attack and pummel him? You actually have to use proper Spacing and calculate when you're going to hit, and make sure you're in range to do so? What a nice challenge

    Hey, let's go check out KH2!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCaWAgkVyEo

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    Oh boy, all you have to do is press X and Sora practically tracks down the enemy for you with his hits, pressing X and Sora just starts lunging in the direction of the enemy. Not to mention the part where you press "down" on the D-Pad twice and go to the "limit" menu and then press X, suddenly, MASH X FOR AUTOMATED ATTACK THAT TAKES OUT 5 HEALTH BARS, HECK YES

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    tl;dr, I don't think that mindless automated flashy combos is "the most amazing thing about the KH battle system", unless you have ADD, then of course I'm sure it's just the bees knees to you.
     
  14. Radiowave ITSA PIIINCH

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    like I said, you can always unequip abilities to your liking. you failed to answer to that. Not all people button mash all the time either...and personally, if you use the same strategies to beat kh1 sephiroth like the ones u used to beat kh2 sephiroth, kh1 sephiroth is easier. that says something...(hint: despite the "ADD battle system" sephiroth is harder in kh2.)
    Again, still off topic point you made.
    Lastly: one of my good friends has ADD and although it means Attention Deficit Disorder, it doesnt automatically mean she goes crazy over "pretty colors" and "flashing lights" its a common misconception...ad those ADD comments of yours are making you look like an ass...
     
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    Do we REALLY want children imitating roxas' moves in front of a valuable tv holding a remote while likely not using the strap?
     
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    A good strap is in order, along with silicone covers for the wiimotes. Nothing wrong with that.
     
  17. TheMuffinMan Banned

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    You can go through Half-Life using a Crow-Bar instead of guns, does that suddenly mean the game is has no guns? No, you have to go out of your way in order to make the game something it's not.

    And in my opinion, fighting Sephiroth in KH2 with no combo abilities and the Sweet Memories is still significantly easier than KH1 Sephiroth, because of the lock-on mechanics and hitstun increase from KH1->KH2.
     
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    Yeah well They surely make games in Blue-Ray do you have a PS3 to know?Well I have! And the whole think is not just for movies when Xbox 360 reach it's technical limits PS3 will still go on because GPC is better than Xbox 360 yeah I agree for now XBox has better graphics than PS3 but you'll see in the time! As for Wii I don't know of what you are talking about but that's what I read he clearly said that WII WAS MADE TO ATTRACT KIDS TO HAVE THIS WHOLE ADVENTURE OF PLAYING! and that's why Wii doesn't have and the best graphics and all these baby game like mario, sonic etc.

    God it memorized!!!
     
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    Mario and Sonic "Baby games"? They are some of the oldest games. They were the first. Now, I assure you that the "baby games" were not played by babies back then.

    Again I repeat my comment. You are on a site about Kingdom hearts. A game with Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck and Goofy in it. The protagonist is a boy who believes in himself and his friends. He has puffy pants. The majority of the game is Disney.

    If the Wii is for "baby games" I think Kingdom hearts would fit right in.

    Oh, and the Wii is designed for everyone. It has things like red steel or metroid prime corruption, and games like Super Mario Galaxy. Even games like The Legend of Zelda: Twilight princess. The thing is, no one has pushed the wii's graphics. Twilight princess is better than most wii games graphic wise, and it is a ported Gamecube game.

    By the way, Sonic game did come out for the ps3. Did you know it was considered the worst version out of all the systems?

    Look, I can accept that the PS3 has a place, and has good graphics, but you cannot accept that the Wii is anything except a console "for bables"
     
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    No, the Wii is made to expand the video gaming audience, instead of making it a completely niche thing. More people over the age of 25 play the Wii than any other console.

    What Nintendo did to expand the video gaming audience now is exactly what Sony did to expand the video gaming audience in 1994. Sony marketed the Playstation to everyone, whereas at the time Gaming was completely only for the "hardcore" gamers which were seen as losers, Sony marketed the Playstation to the entire world, showing everyone that gaming wasn't for losers, that it was for everyone. So, little kids got the Playstation, Teenagers got the Playstation, Adults got the Playstation, and from there all of those people became the gamers that are the "hardcore" today.

    How old is the average KH fan? 12-14 years old? If you asked the majority of them what their first console was, hell even if I asked you, the answer for most would be: Playstation. That's right, all of you were the ones buying the "kiddy" Playstation back in the 90s, where the Hardcore tried to keep their allegiance to the Sega Saturn and N64. That didn't stop the Playstation from expanding Video Gaming and becoming a massive success, because the Playstation was made to attract everyone into buying the console, and all of those people became the gaming 'Hardcore' today.

    Now Nintendo is taking the torch of expanding gaming with the Wii. Where Gaming has once again become stagnant and only for the "hardcore", attacked more and more by the media, the Wii is marketed to everyone so that the Gaming Audience grows and Gaming becomes a more widely accepted form of entertainment. So, kids are buying the Wii, Teenagers are buying the Wii, and Adults are buying the Wii, and in the coming years all the people who got into gaming because of the Wii will become the "hardcore" gamers of the next generation. You may look at the people buying the Wii and scoff all you want because you're "mature" and they're "kiddy", because that's exactly what you looked like 10 years ago.

    And if you don't have the maturity to see games as what they are: games, and have to turn your nose up and act like you're too "mature" to enjoy a game, then you are nothing more than a Child yourself. Mario and Sonic are some of the oldest video game franchises there are, the majority of people who know and love Mario since the 80s are now 20-30 years old, and the fact that you would disregard how fantastic plenty of video game series' are, simply because the graphics aren't HD or the style is "cartoony" and therefore you're too "mature" to play them, shows that you are just a Kid yourself.
     
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