Birth by Sleep Why Ven looks like Roxas *MAJOR SPOILERS!*

I know this is a fact because i've made a giant theory about the subject remember noise.The thing i forgot though is the thing about sora's heart not forgeting him.Good point.Something i need to remember.

Ben this section is for theories so if you can't appreciate the theories then please don't comment.

 

Yeah, but what if the theory is wrong?
It's all something we never expected would happen?
That's all I'm saying

 

Then it's wrong and we all have a good laugh about it afterwards.

 

Yeah!!! i just hope people take us as liars if we really ARE wrong!!!! XDDD

 

I'm sure that Sora would have remembered something about Ven in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories. I doubt one person could make everyone forget about him, all he said was "Erase me" to Aqua I think. Your heart can't remember things in the Kingdom Hearts universe, I'm pretty sure anyway, well actually I'm positive, because Organization XIII didn't have hearts, but they remembered what it was like to have hearts.

 

what if he went through puberty really fast?

 

how would his brother go to fight MX when all the worlds were separated and knew nothing of the other worlds?

 

how does the whole BBS story happen if all the world are separated?

i dont think it matters about the worlds

 

No one is sure about anything the game hasn't come out yet. We had no idea that riku was xemnas before KH2 came out.

 

dude seriously they look exactly alike..... Same outfit too.....only cooler! It's weird

 

Riku was never Xemnas...he was Ansem

and, Ven could be sora's older brother...its happend in games before but not in KH thats why its a possibility because they dont want to keep pulling the same stuff out of there asses over and over again (ie Xion possibly being Soras nobody)

having Ven being Soras older brother would be a huge plot twist

 

Nice theory about Ven being Sora's older Brother

My theory would be actually: When Ven says "Erase me" ( in the trailer ) that Terra/Aqua or Xehanort(?) mixed Ven's heart with Sora's heart or something like that xD

That maybe does explain why he was chosen by the keyblade o.O

 

Because Nomura is widely renowned for his originality, right?

No, not really. :v

Now THAT sounds a little more like Kingdom Hearts.

 

...If Xehanort really did put Ven's heart in Sora's than it could be because Ven was a thorn in Xehanorts eye and wanted that Terra actually go to the darkside ( like Riku and Ansem ) but because of Ven's friendship to Terra, Terra did not accept. That is why Xehanort didn't want Ven too close to Terra. After stealing his heart ( there is a picture where Ven is actually unconsciousness and Terra holding him under his arm; that's maybe because he hasn't got a heart anymore ) Terra wanted to avenge him and with all his rage fightning Xehanort he got lost in the darkness ... and after that Xehanort decided to put Ven's heart in Sora's so Ven's memories got erased...
and he forgets Terra and Aqua etc...

Well this is only a huge theory ^^
But it just fits to the title " Birth By Sleep " since Ven is sleeping in Soras's body and rebirthing at the same time (Roxas?) AKA getting the Keyblade in KH 1.

 

In my Xion, Roxas, Namine theory for 358/2 days
I figured that Ven lost his soul not his heart in Twilight Town and his body remained there.

Then when Sora became a heartless, Roxas couldn't use his body to be born a Nobody because Sora got his body back too fast. So Sora's soul sparked his Nobody's birth in Ven's body, using Sora's heart.

It goes into more detail in my thread.



Besides, if Ven's heart really was in Sora's body then Sora would have three hearts in him (Sora, Kairi, Ven's) so when he released them in HOllow Bastion
3 Nobodies should've been made instead of just of Roxas and Namine.
And i really doubt Xion is Ven's nobody so please don't start THAT

 

All I know is that Kingdom Hearts was a basic project proposed by Disney with a simple storyline......that's how I felt anyway...

In CoM, Organization 13 was introduced...the storyline starts to take a different path..

And in Kingdom Hearts 2, Nomura slaps every1 in the face with a plot twist...(ex. Videogame: The Ansem U pwned was NOT the real Ansem...me: What!!!??? )

and now I'm really sure Nomura will slap us in the face again with another plot twist...Maybe MX took Ven's heart and Terra's all mad and Ven becomes MX's apprentice....That's why he told aqua "erase me"...I'm sure Terra is the Real Keyblade Master in the game...Maybe Terra dies or sacrifises himself...Maybe Terra is the voice that was guiding Sora in the first KH, who knows?

 

Well I won't say that Xion is Ven's nobody ( of course not )
But what if Sora actually just had 2 hearts?
I mean one is from Kairi and the other one is Sora's AND Ven's fused...so it's only ONE!

Like I said ALL theory

I will read your 358/2 Days theory as well now ^^

Merry Christmas btw :P

 

If Sora and Ven were brothers, Sora's nobody wouldnt look EXACTLY like Ven. His nobody is allowed to be a twin while Sora isnt?

I think somehow Ven's heart merged with Sora's body, meaning at the start of kh1, Sora had two hearts instead of one. Which would explain why Sora still had a heart in kh2 and why Roxas also had one. The two hearts within Sora just went to separate bodies.

 

Seriously? You guys think that Sora's heart is mixed with Ven's? That would totally explain why Roxas, a nobody, would totally look like Ven because Sora's "fused heart", which was taken away from his body, thus making Roxas not have a heart, would somehow be connected to Roxas looking like Ven even though there was no heart inside of the body that Roxas was made from at the time of his birth. Makes sense. Total sense.​

 

Well, why would the keyblade be able to be weilded by both Roxas AND Sora? The keyblade chooses its weilder by determining the strength of their heart. Not only that, but Sora cried before merging back with Roxas. Sora was supposed to not have a heart. Roxas got angry at Riku during their fight. Both of those things are emotions which nobodies/people without hearts cannot have.