Chain of Memories Why do you think Marluxia wanted to take over Org. 13

I mean, wat was wrong with mansex being the head.

Any thoughts?

 

That's the beauty of the lack of character development, as well as the reason why Marluxia and Larxene teamed up together in the first place. I'm really hoping this would be explained in the you know what.

Otherwise, I think Marluxia mainly wanted the power he had. There might be other reasons, considering Xemnas's reign wasn't favorable (though it was needed to further prevent betrayal from happening and things going out of order, but at the same time, his harsh actions can also lead to others going against him. This is what happened with Axel, when he could not kill Roxas).

Whether Nomura would ever expand on that, is yet to be seen.

 

It is hard to know for sure and there are holes in the story but my take on it was this.

Xemnas had control pretty much of -all- Nobodies. Now, some were easier to conform to the Organization, realizing that they wanted to be whole people and all and he had a plan. However, any after the top 6 were probably brought in by being captured or lured in.

The case seems to be that way with Larxene, that Xigbar went and caught her and brought her there. Marluxia seemed smoother and calculated. He probably joined with no problems and I doubt Xemnas would have bothered to put him in a position of power to monitor Castle Oblivion...unless his intentions were possibly that he did not trust Marluxia and gave him some 'power' to have to keep him entertained and out of the way while others were busy doing things.

Vexen and Zexion obviously were there to do 'memory research' but also it wouldn't surprise me if Xemnas was not somewhat aware that Marluxia and Vexen were both spying on him to some effort to learn of his past which he did not want to share. Marluxia though was very smooth and arrogant, but probably also followed orders so either he was semi-trusted or just put in charge for his demeanor. Vexen it seemed had fallen out of grace with Xemnas though there's only 'proof' of this by if you take the 358/2 Days reference to the status of the Org member by how high the chair is each sits in. Marluxia's was higher than Vexen's in the scene with all Org members together in KH2:FM.

Having said this kind of goes astray so back to the point... Marluxia seemed out for the power Xemnas had. He did not want to be a lackey but instead saw the potential for the younger members to take from the older members what they had. If you think about it, hearing the actual Organization story and all, it was the top Organization members' faults after all that the Nobodies even existed. We don't really get to hear about the other top members' opinions on all that happened with Xehanort and their incidences but Xemnas himself was not at all apologetic for the predicament. Seeing as Xemnas could not be 'justified' in a way yet expected to somehow hold power while no one totally understood his plight out of the younger members after the 6...and even possibly the others of the original members might not have either... Marluxia's thoughts for power were probably not justified in his own mind but more than reasonable to him. It was duplicity that created the Nobodies in the first place and therefore to a cold, calculating mind, why would it matter if duplicity robbed them of their positions and lives and he could take over and do things his way, taking advantage of the way Nobodies are? So, to me, that's kind of how I view it. I don't think he was out to do anything good because he was clearly a person that wanted power, but at the same time, when thinking on how Xemnas was very domineering and had 'plans' yet some of those plans actually forced everyone to be the way they were, it seemed like a great potential. Nowhere in Marluxia's actual character did they really show a 'good guy' doing the right thing. Larxene, I could debate on whether she could have turned out different with the right influence but Marluxia was to me not a good person and taking advantage of a situation.

 

Marluxia was having his period.

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(In an effort to make this not be considered spam) Or, maybe Xemnas personally wronged Marluxia, and he got ticked off about it, and felt like taking over to get back at him. We just dun know about it yet, b'cuz the new game coming out (358/2 Days) will explain it all. I realy don't know. I'm curious as hell though, X_X.

 

I guess Marluxia felt that he should have order over the Organization. After all, Marluxia took over when the Org. was first introduced in CoM.

 

your right and he's our ruler.....dangit >.< but yeah your right because if you look he's the first Orgy XIII member you EVER see except from roxas if you get the secret ending

 

Some people, you know, get obsessed with power, I guess. Marluxia happened to be one of those people.

 

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Anyway, as I said, the only main reason we've got, and that's mostly because it was obvious, is because he wanted power. Whether with Marluxia it goes deeper, which I believe, or else he would be more one dimensional in terms of depth, has yet to be known, because no development or scenes was given to Marluxia or Larxene to get more info about them, and more of why, and how.

Nomura needs to get his priorities straight when developing his characters. I swear, he always, ALWAYS, focuses on one or two of them all the damn time, even with the new scans and promotions, not one ounce of the CoM members are (I know they die, and they will probably be around the beginning, and then forgotten, but that does not make them less deserving of importance as they are a part of the Organization nonetheless), and it's all about the KH2 ones, which barely even get screens enough either, but Axel gets like a ton of them, right? Let's lick Axel some more and be on his skinny @ss, why don't we? So I guess he now focuses on a particular group as well. Let's see if he can redeem himself with 358/2 Days.

And I'll end my rant here xD. Ignore it.

Though really, why Larxene and Marluxia teamed up for what reasons should've been answered in CoM, because then, a 358/2 Days didn't exist.

 

maybe he thought he was best to take it over i dont know it was kinda hard to think of really

 

Yeah, just what you said. Who would want a leader who's called Mansex?

 

Just an idea but... Marluxia couldn't possible felt ambition or nothing alike (it's a Nobodie, after all) so maybe by acting like he could he deceive himself by believing he could actually feel something...

I mean, must of nobodies do that... Like Demyx how was in denial about don't having a heart... IMO.

 

Marluxia was obviously intelligent and a schemer before he became a Nobody. Whether Nobodies have 'emotions' or not, they all know they used to have them and they do recall what it felt like to possess them. Marluxia was acting out of his behavioral pattern. Also, for someone like Marluxia, having no emotions could be a great thing. He'd have no remorse or regrets. He'd be able to plan without emotions getting in his way. Larxene seemed to 'care' more about her emotional state or lack there of. She gripped onto the memory of it and all. I think that's partially why Marluxia could use her. She was not pleased with how things were, wanted more recognition, wanted to not have been dragged into the Org, etc. She seemed a free spirit that was bound up tight so Marluxia probably seemed like a good deal to her. He however, seemed to not really mind his state of being so much and wanted power. He was smooth enough to get Xemnas to make him charge of the Castle Oblivion after all, which was annoying to other members who were older and actually -doing- research.

That's my assessment so far really in a bit more detail.

 

Greed? For power?
Nobodies are more 'whole' than they let on to be, they showed themselves ot have emotions when they really had none, like Demyx tried to act weak infront of Sora so he'd let his guard down. Marluxia would have been ambitious, and greedy, because he is a higher nobody able to keep his physical form and maybe some of his ambition in real life.

 

About Larxene, she actually says in one cutscene that someone whit out a heart is useless -to Vexen, actually- so it seems that she really care about those things... She actually gets annoyed when Vexen told her she didn't have a heart either...

 

Dude, i actually live in florida. Although you are righ it sucks. Were having a hurricane as I type.

 

Same here we are having storms cause of the hurricane,I live in Texas.Anyways back to main topic, Marly wanted to have power over the organization cause everyone in the organzation thought that he sucks at fighting and was a mansex?

 

Actually besides the secret ending the first member you see is Xemnas, but that's in kh final mix.

 

I think that it was just a lust for power. And the idea that he could do better than Xemnas, who didn't really hang out with the other Organization members.

 

Yeah, that's what I was referring to. Larxene just seemed to -want- to have more depth, kind of like Axel. In the end I felt hers and Axel's plights related closer than her ties with Marluxia and going along with his agenda. Both Larxene and Axel were so vibrant and wanting to really feel things. Demyx too. Marluxia really just didn't seem to care and was a total opportunist and played people.

 

Maybe part of it was for attention too? It's fairly obvious that Marluxia is rather flamboyant and showy. Every entrance he makes is dramatic, every move he makes is graceful. And he seems simpley in appearance to be rather vain. He's a 'drama queen' so maybe he just wanted to be the centre of attention rather then Roxas or Xemnas. He was being a petty little boy rather then a criminal mastermind. Because, lets face it, all his plots kind of imploded on him as though they weren't as well planned as he'd like to believe.