Why do people love Skyrim so much that they call it "The Best Game Ever!"?

You're talking about almost the whole online lot of gamers who post on forums. Look at this thread. Look at NeoGaf. Like i said, look on any forum. They all have opinions the same as each other.
What I am really pissed at is that people online criticise a game for being this or that but never offer an alternative, better solution to the problem they mention. Constructive criticism is the only worthwhile criticism to listen to.

For example, in Skyrim, the amount of equipment you could forge and create should've been expanded, and has been thanks to mods and patches and even expansions, but the vanilla game should have had that initially. It should've also offered us magic levelling, where your magic abilities became more powerful as you levelled instead of staying weak, otherwise your basic level magic was useless after a certain point in the game. Should've also added hunting quests that meant you could make a carer out of being a hunter, sneaking up on animals, collecting pelts and so on. I would've rather have that kind of criticising then simple saying the gameplay was poor, etc. Well then give us an alternative.

 

You can't mod out shitty gameplay. I've already tried. The problems with Skyrim originate from it's engine.

 

Wrong. Do you know who is never going to see/care about any of these posts? The dev team, the marketing team, the guys upstairs in management, etc. Constructive criticism is what you give someone when you are directly critiquing their work. It is more than sufficient to just point out failings and successes of a given piece when all you're doing is expressing an opinion. You may tell me that the publishers and developers won't know what to do if no one says it. No, it's called voting with your money. That's the only thing they care about and the only true criticism you are going to make as a normal buyer. If you buy it you are saying everything is perfect and you wouldn't change a thing and if you don't buy it you're saying you want something else. That is the sad truth of the matter. You don't get middle ground with the only opinion they care about, the only one that matters.

And then alternatives? Why? What does that accomplish? Nothing. There is no equivalent, there is only this particular game and your feelings on it. I could tell you, I thought Skyrim played like cheap plastic and then tell you to play Valkyria Chronicles. That's an alternative with much better gameplay, it's also not at all relevant.

 

To answer the thread's title.

People shockingly can enjoy a game that you don't, that's why.

Like how people praise the Assassin's Creed series which I honestly find kinda boring personally, I won't get on them for liking it.

Now, I'm not saying you can't say that you don't like a game. Just don't tell a person to not enjoy it because you didn't.

As for me, I do think Skyrim is a fine game, but I personally prefer Fallout. I'm more of a sci-fi person than a traditional (?) fantasy person.

 

It's pretty obvious why your average pleb will think Skyrim is one of the best games ever made. The big scope of the world, the theme and dragons all make daily man Joe wet. They're not playing the game for the combat or the story, they just want to run around and feel like badasses while slaying dragons. That's pretty much all there is to it.

 

How does one not purchase a game, to tell devs that it sucks, when everything they hear is "OMG SKYRIM IS AMAZING" and can't form an opinion without playing it themselves? You can't exactly invest hours and hours at a friends place, playing their copy to form an opinion, and you can't really form an opinion in the space of a few hours of gameplay.

 

They rent a copy or prejudge.

Also, this system isn't in place to help the buyer. It's not in place because it makes sense, it's just how it happens to work.

 

You want an alternative

Here's an alternative

 

I didn't even know it was considered the best by some people.

 

You are doing what I dislike about gaming internet commentators which i've literally just criticised.. You say it's ****** yet you offer no better suggestion or ideas, you just say it's ****.
Also another thing I dislike. People who take one detail of a game and say the game is unplayable or not worth it and a waste. Like Mass Effect 3, people on the internet gave that **** reviews because of the ending. Which all the sheep that are online game reviewers ad posters seem to repeat over and over and over. Instead of looking at the full package they focus on one thing, and it poisons everything
I remember the PS1 and the terrible controls, glitches, frame rate, massive difficulty spikes that could come in one game package but people loved them for all there faults. Modern day gamers seem to want perfection when the industry has never been that. People expect too much from video games, like it'll complete their lives and make everything better and when it doesn't they get all emo and start crucifying the game box and condemn it to Satan.

That's a lot of prejudgement on something you have no first hand experience with. You'll find each company works differently and listens to fans in different capacities. Valve has the most fan influence on how they work and put content forward. Ubisoft and Bioware listens to their fans in what they want to see in sequels, through online checkboxes emailed to certain critics and private individuals with the community. So, it's not as dark and malevolent as you're making it out to be.

And if the money system of buying a game meant quality we wouldn't have bad sales in games like Psychonauts and Beyond Good and Evil. And there wouldn't be passionate Indie developers who make games because they want to. Money may run the business side of the gaming industry, but the development team may have other ideas if they're allowed the freedom and have the passion to do so.

 

My, this thread on a mediocre game has gone on for quite a bit.[DOUBLEPOST=1366751430][/DOUBLEPOST]

And this is why we're friends.

Could be besties, but nooooooo, you gotta like VIII.

 

I have it for Xbox but maybe only put a day's worth time into it. The game is very impressive, but just the style of it to me is too much like an mmo and I don't like playing an mmo by myself for very long. I would like it for steam though just for the mods.

 

I think I'm just gonna keep posting DkS dance videos

Listen man

The scene on the Ragnarok is really fuckin' cute

And that's all there is to say on the matter

 

If it stings your wound worse, a friend of mine gave me a poster for the game, which I hang PROUDLY in my house :>

(and if anything you gotta admit Triple Triad is fun)

 

It's really hard to find a nice IX one so I don't have one hanging in my house, but yeah Triple Triad is the best thing to come from VIII.

 

The poster he gave me is a neat cloth one, with a string to hang on a tack or pin or whatever. I think he got it from a flea market, though I wonder how common those are for you to see.

 

"Best game ever" is a relative opinion.

Show's over, everyone go home.

 

Well technically they don't have to go home. They just can't stay here, Sax.

 

Oh that's called a wall scroll, yeah they're quite nice, I have one of Lightning.

 

It's not a prejudgement. There is direct evidence of this. Call of Duty. Final Fantasy. Resident Evil. Mario Party. Metal Gear Solid. There are tons of games that are only made because their predecessors sold well. They have no business existing in their own right, but from a sales perspective they need to exist because this is a business. Businesses are to make money, customer satisfaction and opinions are numbers in an equation. That is not an exaggeration, I've been tested on this. Yes, they take customer surveys and take criticisms e-mailed directly to them, that's part of the PDP (product development process), it's step eight, tracking the product through the market and seeing how it is received. Those go right in the equation like I said. But forum posts on rinkydink little fansites? No. No one looks at those. Those are worthless. That doesn't get numbers. So your argument is invalid, you are not more enlightened than anyone. Deal with it.

The development team isn't autonomous. They are a part of the business. They answer to someone and more importantly, their timetable, resources and concepts have to conform with the money's standpoint. If the money says, no, they can't argue that. They have to go with what the money says. Psychonauts didn't get a sequel. It was a failure. Quality and success are not even slightly correlated. Sometimes they coincide, but public opinion and quality aren't buddies.

I know for a fact that I'm just raging at being required to pay to work for a company that I resent in order to graduate, but you're still wrong. You're acting like the outliers are the norm and you're acting like we need to be optimistic rather than trying to take what we do have control over and try to change things. I'm done. Good night.