who is god??

I would say they exist because people want them to in order to live together socially and be as productive as we can while not killing ourselves off. It doesn't seem to take a supernatural power to reveal to me that being nice and helpful to others boosts myself and those people up and we can make it farther in life with less hazards. People in tribal communities, long before Christianity or Judaism had to get along and there are tribes out there that do still. Why? Because it is beneficial to them and they are happier because of that. What supernatural meaning do you need to be nice to someone when you can see the reality of the goodness it does for humankind before your eyes?

I don't think that people need to fear to be good beneficial people. If they see the positives, and also the negatives, most people will long for the positive things that help keep them, their families, and community safe. It's part of the social structure of people but also seen quite abundantly in the animal kingdom with packs, prides, etc. We are social creatures and if one is doing bad things, sooner or later something has to be done to get that person back in line...same as with animals. We just tend to be a lot kinder than animals do because those who mess up things there usually are killed straight out or chased off to die on their own. Kindness is potentially innate in most people and otherwise, that's why there are laws to help keep people in line so it is beneficial for people to follow those laws if they want to remain in that society.

So, how does God give people morals that nature already doesn't supply? The promise of a good afterlife? I think it's totally unneeded because no one can prove that such a place even exists and why not live the best lives we can WHILE we are alive? In seriousness though, I am curious why people seem to believe they need God to be good, when you can take responsibility yourself and do it instead. Do people seriously think of themselves as being incapable of it and needing the fear and oppression of an outside force as well as a social structure? It confuses me why.

 

There is many gods. There is Allah, Buddist, Ra, Yehova and more to even trust. We don't have proof that they are teh real god. It's as if they're fighting over to just be bowed upon. -_-

 

Well sure. One has to wonder why anything exists sometimes. But using a vague, non-realistic answer is not going to get you anywhere; you aren't learning anything from it. You're just "going with the flow."

And in my opinion, you don't even need "morals." Morals aren't anything but an idealistic concept created by people to make it sound way more serious than it needs to be.

Morals don't come from anywhere except you. Just be nice. It doesn't matter why. Maybe you want to be nice because it suits you mentally, or maybe you want all individuals around you to feel more secure. You won't need to wonder why they exist because they are simply an idea. All idea's came from someone's mind. ALL of them.

Just because it suits the bill for a religion doesn't mean that's the end-all. It's always important to understand that just because you don't have a "holy belief," doesn't mean you aren't moral. Like Repliku said, he's nice and kind (unless otherwise felt mistreated), but he doesn't believe in the westernized religions. He's non-involved.

 

Repliku is right, but here's my two cents


God and jesus are the same thing

they are well...3 in 1 and 1 in 3



but, NEVER God came to abolish his laws of the old testament.

tecnically, when he came to earth the people had used the "ceremonial laws" to gain ranks and power, and we're confusing the common people and making them follow exaggerated rules.

Those laws where abolished, but the 10 commandments(yes, 10 ,not 9)

those where not abolished, none of them.

but back at "who is God"

he is the one who created the world.

and has one final plan for earth an eternal one

btw


when people die they dont go to heaven. that was inplemented by the catholic church, in "the dark ages" to gain power and to control the common folk, to steal their money ect.

when people die, they die, they sleep.

until God comes, then takes them to heaven for 1000 years, to see why some people were not "saved"

and then come back to earth.


and of course some people who are not cristian will be saved.

and i think the only God is, YHVH or Yehova, or Jesus or there are a couple of names.....

 

as i see it.
god seems to be a sort of hope to every beliver and to know that you live under a god you know that he is watching you and caring for you in his way. in countless millenia people have used gods as a moral boost as well as an encouragement for the more poor. there has been wargods, gods of culture, gods of law, gods of fire and etc... as people seem to change god so often i wonder... is the holy lord real or is he a creation of man to help himself?

 

Yes, I do.

It's hard to have faith, and I can understand why you are struggling with your religion. It is very hard to believe in something that technically 'isn't there'.

But I can promise you this: If you trust in Him and live by the Bible, you will have peace in this life and in Heaven.

..I ask that to myself every day, but I know, without a doubt, God is real and watching us and testing us each day. I can feel Him sometimes..you know?

I don't know how, but in my soul I can feel Him.

Long ago, I didn't really have God. I said I did and I did, but I didn't really live by His words. Now that I do, I feel at peace and I'm not as angry. I appreciate things more, you know?

I've learnt every day that God gives us is a blessing. God has taught me to cherish everyone. Although I don't support gay marriages, God has taught me to love them just the same and accept them.

I have learnt a lot from God and I have matured through the Lord.

If we didn't have morals, Darkwatch, we would all be raping, killing, and hurting fellow humans.

 

our morals is our laws and our laws is waht keeps us from doing stuff what you think is wrong.
i do want to belive in something but i have never confirmed myself what it actually is.

 

We do need morals in society to exist and get along. That isn't a religious thing. That's a living thing that helps us to help ourselves and others around us and not be rotten people. It is an advantage to have them and makes us usually feel better about ourselves that we do. Unless, Darkwatch, morals mean something else to you than being concerned with the good and bad people can do and teaching people how to be the most progressive and positive instead of destructive, of course. That's what morals mean to me and I think they are rather imperative and too many parents aren't teaching such things which leads to a lot of animosity.

Of course some morals aren't needed which don't really do anything to help humanity etc. I.e. I don't consider half of the 10 Commandments to be morals. The other half, I would and they make commonsense. To not cheat, steal, kill, assault, bully, abuse and such like that are good concepts that help any society really and also the individuals. So, though my morals that I think should be mandated by law are not so huge, I do see some are needed as a base to successful peace, contentment and prosperity.