Kingdom Hearts II What was Roxas talking about?

No he said "you" not "he."

 

He said:
"Why he picked you?"

And the "You make a good other" was actually Roxas talking to Sora,nothing about Ven.

 

I think it has to do with DiZ, i mean Roxas left the organization right? So if he hated them, i'm sure he would have helped some one defeat them, like say DiZ? So i think Roxas was just jealous, because he was just as good a fighter if not better then Sora, and he knew everything about the organization, making him the better of the two halfs to go after the organization. But Diz despised nobodies so much that he simply overlooked Roxas for Sora. Roxas was just angry, then seeing the stain glass he realized Diz had picked Sora for another reason, Sora had powerful friends willing to stand beside him and take down the Nobodies, Roxas only had Axel and Namine...but as mentioned before, Diz HATES nobodies.

 

whoops. yeah youre right. i was talking about the end of the clip.

no duh master of gales. how long did it take you to figure that one out.

 

he was probably talking about DIZ.

i mean, roxas at the beggining hates Diz because he forced him to go back to sora.

and is probably mad because he didnt want to go to sora, but once he fights sora he sees the thruth.

and gives up....to be one with sora.

 

If it hasn't been settled yet, the only logical answer would be that Roxas was referring to the Keyblade.
Why? Well, how would fighting Sora have answered any other question?
A battle couldn't answer much else, could it?

 

For the last time. HE is the keyblade. As axel once said "Got it memorized?"

 

But it has,it's because of Axel.
I'm really read it people,just what more and i post it.

 

But thats just it Axel liked Roxas but when roxas ran away Roxas said no one would miss him so their freindship was deep but not too deep. However they did eat ice cream on twilight tower (a sign of freindship) so it's a mystery.

This was all a waste.

 

Two seconds later Axel said "That's not true!I would...............".

 

Yeah but Roxas didnt.

However i can see that roxas liked axel. Why else would he pop up of all times. A reaction to axels death mabey.

 

The org said so,they said that Axel death may cause Roxas to fully awaken,i think it was in KH2Fm after the scene Axel died.

 

Yeah. I watched that like 5 times. It'll reveal more on the next game. Roxas's history and all that. I think the number is 365/2 days.

 

It isn't that much of a mystery to me. He was talking about the Keyblade, though he personified by calling it a "He". Kind of like you call a ship, like the Titanic for a well known example, a "She". There was no doubt in my mind that it was the Keyblade, other than perhaps it being Diz, though that doesn't really make much sense, as he wasn't that crucial. Ven, don't even bring him into this, the one talking was Roxas, period. He probably didn't exist back then, and was a still a dot on Nomura's mind.

This is how I interpreted the scene. Roxas, and by what Xemnas said, and I think Nomura confirmed it too, got awakened from deep inside Sora by Axel's sacrifice, which kind of shook him, apparently, as Axel's touched Sora's Heart (not literally, people. Emotionally). DeadHeart is right on that one. HOWEVER, that does not mean that it was Axel who Roxas was referring to. It doesn't fit in a amount of ways, which hopefully, I don't need to explain, since already the point got across by others. Coming from that, it appears Roxas wanted answers, because, we all know he really got thrown in, and wasn't entirely happy to be back and live life through someone else. Or even truly accepted it. In other words, he wanted to see why Sora was chosen over him...maybe, in more ways than one for different reasons, which is why he fought him: to let him prove himself, which is why when the fight ended, Roxas finally gave, and said, "You make a good Other".

Now, the pan to keep in mind is when he jumps up, and sees Sora's friends in the stained glass under him, and asks, the infamous question that boggles people today: "Why did He pick you?"

It was simply because that's where Sora's strength and power comes from, metaphorically speaking, and what drives his Heart. His friends are the people who he cares for, and that's why Roxas stated, "I see. That's why", when he got the full view of the picture, and what is most important to Sora, and why he protects them and others. His friends. I thought that was the most obvious thing ever out of that whole scene. KH is undoubtedly about friendship first and foremost, even the reason why he can Drive is because of Donald and Goofy. What makes him move along in KH2 is Riku (then Kairi), and even in KH1, is Riku and Kairi. His other friends are in trouble, he's there. I'm telling you people, it's no mystery. You're all forgetting Sora's quote from KH1 to conclude this piece:

"Although my heart may be weak, it's not alone. It's grown with each new experience, and it's found a home with all the friends I've made. I've become a part of their heart just as they've become a part of mine. And if they think of me now and then...if they don’t forget me...then our hearts will be one. I don’t need a weapon. My friends are my power!"

And BAM! He gets the Keyblade from Riku back with that speech as he finds his strength again. Get it enough? :P

As for Riku getting the Keyblade first, and being the original Chosen, Nomura blurred the line on that in one of his interviews. I'll put it on here if you're interested, if I find it, that is. Is one of the recent ones that talks about the new games.

 

Hmmmm, I like twilights answer the most so far. Either way though, the one thing that I find troubling of it is the fact that Roxas is the only one who refers to it as "He", unlike everyone else who refers to the keyblade as an it. So then why the sudden change?

 

For a long time I thought it was Axel he was referring to, which would have made sense to me because the scene after is with Axel and also Axel did help Sora in the end and gave up with trying to help Roxas, feeling he was finally in the right place. He did after all say that Sora reminded him of Roxas and gave him that same feeling that made Axel feel he had a Heart. When he looked down and saw the 'friends' below Sora, Roxas realized he was fighting only for himself and Sora was fighting for his friends. To me that made enough sense and in a way still does.

However, I also do think it referred to the Keyblade as well. Roxas was given Oathkeeper and Oblivion from the connections to Riku and Kairi and yet he was still pretty selfish. The 'he' may have been a mistranslation that should have said 'it' instead. The same point of Sora fighting for his friends while Roxas fought for himself is made clear and at the end, Roxas gets his revelation that Axel actually did care and was there for him and gets to go back in peace to Sora because he finally gets things more and knows he actually was cared for and could care and help others more. He found himself by fighting Sora basically and coming to realize the Keyblade did choose him for the right reasons.

As for Riku, Riku is a staunch defender through and through. I'm kind of confused how Nomura 'blurred the line' or why anyone would ask why Riku was the chosen one at first for the Kingdom Key. Yes, he was facing corruption at the hands of Darkness in KH1, but why? It was because he was duped, misled and he was also trying to save Kairi. Just because he was misled didn't mean he wasn't still trying to do the right thing. He lost it the moment he gave Darkness more credit than his friend, Sora. Had he chosen to let Sora help him save Kairi, he would have kept the Keyblade. But he was led to believe Darkness was more powerful and he was also being corrupted by its influence which was making him fall into a state of madness and confusion. If Riku was not messed with initially, he would have been a great Keyblade wielder easily. His devotion in KH2 is extraordinary where he chooses to entirely rise above his own pain to save people, his friends, warn others, and just be alone having to do a lot of it incognito. He also watched over Sora for some time as he was on his path of 'redemption'. Riku's failures happened because even the best intentions can lead you down paths you don't want to go when others are using you and you are a 15 year old island boy that hasn't gotten to see how rotten some beings can be. I sincerely doubt that Sora, had he been initially chosen, would have faired much better because he has his flaws too and one of them is being rather absent minded and following his Heart a bit too much. Both boys had their flaws and I'm sure Xehanort's Heartless could have messed with either because of their naivety. I could go into more but yeah, that's speculation on personality of both characters which could be done elsewhere.

 

I kinda think he mant the keyblade, but just called it a he.
Possibly by mistake.

 

Repliku, seriously. A whole paragraph dedicated for a offhand comment that wasn't even that certain, just because Riku was in the subject?

>.>

I do think making Roxas appear more selfish than he actually is, is disagreeable, after all, if you can understand Riku, you can understand Roxas, and his own situation, on many aspects, and some that I have no doubt will be explored in 358/2 Days. I digress, though. It seems the question is answered that it was the Keyblade. Was it truly a translation error? I didn't know that...

 

i think he was talking about xemnas, why he chose sora to fight heartless. and then understood why