Kingdom Hearts II What was Roxas talking about?

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  1. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    Well, I was watching the vid of when Sora and Roxas are fighting, and I remember Roxas saying "Why did he pick you?", and then when he rises into the air and looks down at him, with all the pics of his friends on the thing sora is standing on, he says "So that's why"


    What I want to know, is who is 'he' when Roxas is talking. At first, I thought maybe it might be xemnas, who perhaps had wanted to sora to defeat heartless instead of Roxas, but that makes no sense, right? What is the difference? Why would the fact that Sora has friends make a difference?


    can someone help me out on this?
     
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    I think that when he said "Why did he pick you" he meant " Why Axel Saved you" or something like that,you see,he was soo angry that Axel died and was jealous because he died for Sora(Axel didn't even helped Roxas in the beginning,but he died for Sora),that caused him to "awaken" inside Sora,and that made possible Roxas fight Sora inside Sora,as two separeted beings and even call the Samurai nobodies to make Donald and Goofy don't interfere(Sp?)
    Then while fighting against Sora,he noticed why Axel "chosed" him and he aknowledged(Sp?) Sora has a true hero.
     
  3. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    Hmmmm. Well normally, I might think the same thing, but then why wouldn't they have shown something a bit more to signafy that? Was it pure laziness, or is there meaning to it? (idk. a lot of things either are lazily done, or have reasoning to it).

    Hmmm. Besides, I don't think roxas would have really come out for that reason. Because he makes it sound as if he chose Sora over him, when Sora was being hunted after by Axel in the first place in order to get him.

    And also, wasn't Roxas still awake inside of Sora? I mean, he was awake cuz Axel was always visiting his conciousness, dontcha think? (final mix cutscenes show scene of it)
     
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    First of all,he wasn't fully "awakened",and in that scene that Roxas was talking to Axel was after the battle with Roxas,i think that it was Axel "Soul" that came by,to say GoodBye to Roxas,or i was just some memories of him.
    And Axel was chasing Sora to see Roxas again,to "wake him up" i think,but he failed,otherwise,he was just doing a favor to Riku.
     
  5. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    Hmmmmm. I guess you've got a point. I just don't think that it settles with me that he was talken about Axel though. seems a lil off to me
     
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    For me too,but still what else would he fight for?
    He was enraged,that's the only thing possible at the moment.
     
  7. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    Eh, I'll just go with that then
     
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    What I believe is that it had something to do with Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep. Terra had also said something related in K2FM+. Before you fight him he says "I can feel it, we have met before. It was when before... No... It is'nt you. It isn't you that I have chosen..."

    Found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxfx1BloMD0
     
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    Why would Roxas say something about that?
     
  10. Deathsight44 Kingdom Keeper

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    Hmmmmm. Ya. I think I would lean more towards that then the Axel thing. But then again, that one has a lot of holes to it as well......

    I suppose we will have to see when bbs comes out. If Terra doesnt have anything to do with it, then I will agree with deadhearts answer
     
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    I think that the 'he', Roxas is referring to is Diz, 'cause of the prologue of the game... I don't exactly know why it makes a difference.
     
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    I already thought it might be Ansem, but Roxas would never focus on such a trivial matter now above all times. he knew that Ansem hated nobodies, so why would there be so big a deal of it so late in the game?

    And it is important because all parts of kingdom hearts can hold importance (or atleast main storyline stuff). I never realized it until like a month ago that Xigbar mentioned that 'they keyblade picked a real dud this time' . I never even considered that until awhile ago. So now I keep my eyes open for all possibilities
     
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    I'm positive that he wasn't referring to Axel. First of all, Axel died for Sora because he reminded him of Roxas, so that's nothing to get upset about. Plus, Roxas isn't the jealous type; it would extremely selfish to be mad that your friend died for someone else, as opposed to for you. And you're forgetting the part where Roxas says "I see...that's why" after they fight for a while. Axel wouldn't pick a friend because they are a good fighter, he was drawn to Roxas because he was different from the other Organization members.

    The way I see it, there are three possibilites:

    1) He was asking why Terra chose for Sora to inherit the Keyblade. That could have been Ven who said that, since we know there is a connection between Roxas and Ven. Remember that Riku was actually supposed to get the Keyblade, but he submerged himself in darkness at that point, so it was passed on to Sora. It's possible that Ven knew who Terra had picked, and was therefore confused when he saw Sora wielding a Kyblade.

    2) He was wondering why Diz wanted Sora to awaken. It's a legitimate question to ask, since it was because of Sora's awakening that he was no longer able to move around freely. So he may have been thinking "what's so good about this person that's replacing me?"

    3) He was wondering why Xemnas was using Sora to wipe out the Heartless. This one is the least likely of the three, but it is still possible. I'm pretty sure that Roxas' roll in the Organization was to defeat Heartless in order to create Kingdom Hearts,so Organization Roxas wanted to know why he lost his job.
     
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    When I saw that, I assumed that Roxas was talking about the keyblade, but I never really payed much attention to it. Now that I think about it, I'm wrong. What is he really talking about?
     
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    Hmmm, I also believed he might have been refering to the keyblade. But that doesn't make all that much sense.....


    1.as for you iwanttoexplode, your first guess I thought would be considerable, but I don't think so. After all, Riku originally was supposed to get the keyblade. When he dissapeared into darkness though, sora got it instead. Total fluke on sora's part really

    2. it is indeed possible. but I dont think so

    3. I considered that to, but then why would he change his mind becuz of sora's friends?
     
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    1) Yeah, I know it was a mistake, but Roxas/Ven had no way of knowing that.

    2) I don't believe it strongly either, but why don't you think that's what he meant.

    3) Again, this is the least likely to be true, in my opinion, but no one ever said that Xemnas chose Sora because of his friends.
     
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    1. Can we be certain about that? Maybe not Roxas, but ven.......

    2. Sorta obvious why he wanted him to awaken really....

    3. Exsactly. But Roxas knows that 'he' chose him because of his friends (idk what else it means when they show sora there standen on a platform with pics of all his friends all around him)
     
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    I read somewere that it was confirmed to be Axel.
    I will see if i can find it again.
     
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    What Roxas ment was when he said "You'd make a good other," was he'd make a good keyblade weilder. Ven was saying that, not Roxas. Ven was just testing Sora.
     
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    I just thought he talked about the keyblade as a "he"...
     
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