What is your take on this theory?

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  1. P Banned

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    Wishful thinking. Can you honestly say that you can think rationally when you are heading towards the ground at 885 MPH? You are calling out to anything that can help. Just because you do that, it proves nothing. If i raised a child to think that calling to a tree would help them, they would cry out to their tree.

    As for the proof, it is but a replica. Replica. Replica. They can be faked quite easily. A splodge of paint and a bit of cloth. There is your veil. I am sorry, but a bit of cloth cannot be a foundation of faith. I could just as easily put my soul in the hands of my sister's drawings.

    And did you just call the Repliku a spammer?
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  2. Redeyesblackdragon Twilight Town Denizen

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    Explain to me this, why is there people that have died and came back? Why do people get large amounts of money, luck, I think not. If god doesn't exist what made us a some big bang theory? and why would it only chose earth to have life? by the way go see the real one, its over there in jaruselum go see it.
     
  3. The Fuk? Dead

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    Jesus could've been any random person, why is he such a credibilty? Just because he SAYS he was the son of god?
     
  4. TacoGrenade King's Apprentice

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    Honestly I have to agree. I believe a god is just something to latch onto when you can't handle your own problems. No god is going to "smite" the bad guys. Not that I'm trying to contradict anyone's religion but that's how I feel.
     
  5. Juicy Chaser

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    That was perhaps the lamest argument ever |:
    People rarely die and then come back. If they do do for a few minutes then come back to life it is because doctor's are trying to bring them back, or they weren't really fully dead to begin. People get large amounts of money because they enter the lottery and everyone who does has a chance of winning. Neither of those points are particularly valid in proving that God exists |:


    You're last part didn't really make much sense to me, sorry. I can only guess that you are mocking the big bang theory O.O
     
  6. daxma Hei Long: Unrivalled under the Heavens

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    The general idea of you theory is good but very crude.I believe that religion,god and everything that comes with were used to institute control over the people without the people even knowing it.At the same time it instituted the earliest form of order in the world.Religion became the laws of the world.It controlled and kept control.Religion is just like the laws of the modern day but religion enforced a moral sanction upon you not a pyshical one which could easily be avoided.It was and probably still is the most effective form of control.It went off when so many different religions began, they shattered the principles of the other religions hence causing discrimination,racism and war.
     
  7. The Fuk? Dead

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    Earth isn't the only planet to have life. We have no knoweldge of other life on other planets, but that doesn't mean it doesm't exist. Obviously there is or was water on mars, otherwise it wouldn't be "rusted" looking. And water has molecules, and so does everything in the universe, so saying we are the only ones out there is very unbelievable. And name one person who has died and come back.

    I agree with OWS, this arguement has no substance.
     
  8. RusinaRange Twilight Town Denizen

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    Jesus did really live but i think that he didn't really do half of the stuff they say i mean maybe they did a deal with some guy that he could make money cause religion was the biggest money maker those days or then they just wrote what they wanted because they would come famous.. Or maeby jesus faked them somehow for some reason we cannot know... unless they built a time machine but that is impossible so i guess well never know..:)
     
  9. Repliku Chaser

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    Actually I was in Airborne and did I jumped out of perfectly good airplanes and each time the first thing I thought was "Oh ****!" ..then I thought "Whoo hoo!" and then I thought "That chute better open heh". So no God was needed there. Sorry bub. The 'I'm going to be a tree" thing was a comedian joke and not what people who don't believe in your Christian deity think when they are going to die. Maybe we just think 'And now the answer will finally be revealed' instead of believing in books that to us are full of errors both historically and scientifically.

    Also, just because Jesus existed, which his real name is Yeshua, it does not mean he performed all of those miracles which only in history seem to be absolutely accounted for by people years after he died. This is why Jews, except for the nutty group "Jews for Jesus" which are just Christians in the end, disbelieve in Jesus as being a prophet. They have no history of him doing these miracles. One would think the Jews, all those thousands of them that witnessed such great things, would have written about the miracles themselves considering they did put a whole collaboration together of the First Testament while being forced to wander and put it together in Babylon.

    In the end, if there is a God, I can say it's not the way humans think of it or them because there could be multiple ones. There just is nothing to hold up any story mankind has created and just because some people may say what you wrote in a time of a near death experience does not validate God exists. On the same note, what happens if a Hindu is going to die? What would he or she think in the same situation? How about a Buddhist? What about a Wiccan? Their last thoughts aren't going to be about the Christian deity and saving them. I guarantee it. So what makes their religions any less correct if this is your 'validation' of God's existence? I choose to simply let the answer be resolved when either
    A. information comes along that actually supports a being of such grandiose magnitude as existing.
    B. I die and there's the answer before me.

    Not everyone has to live in fear because of a ridiculous promised land or there's inferno. Some of us would actually like to know for fact instead of just taking a leap of faith. That's not spam. That's being a realist.
     
  10. Redeyesblackdragon Twilight Town Denizen

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    I am sorry I did post irationaly and am sorry, but I do not agree with this theory, in fact really this is a hypothesis.
     
  11. The Fuk? Dead

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    Thank you, that was handled much better.
     
  12. water mage Kingdom Keeper

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    I believe in God and Jesus Christ because I feel it in my heart and know what is right and wrong. Even though I don't go to church I feel I can still believe and live a good life. I believe in the bible even though there has been speculations about it all not being true, but every person is different so we don't discuss beyond that. Personally I have had a few close encounters with death and I always feel that I have a guardian angel with me and he or she gives me strength.
     
  13. White_Rook Looser than a wizard's sleeve.

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    Yeah, but no one's doing any of that. It's simply his take on the matter. Furthermore no argument that posits an alternative to creationism ever assumes that nothing existed before the big bang. Common theories put forth the idea that everything in the universe began as a densely packed slab of matter.

    If there's anything that starts a heated debate in cases as these it's the misinformation that either party brings to the table. You've made several assumptions on part of what others believe and make obviously biased arguments (i.e. "Christians go out into the world and save souls from burning in hell") that just ask for you to be lambasted. Religious and scientific jargon and mumbo-jumbo aside, it's about respect in what others believe. While you may not be aware, excessive bible beating and criticism of people's convictions in science is pretty hypocritical in the context of everything you just posted. Accusing Atheists of not having any morals to live by is also asking for a ***** slap too, so cut the high horse bullshit .
     
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