What if we had a Pokémon Tag Battle Tournament?

Gotcha. I just think having super op pokemon in this tournament, or whatever it is, of ours would make it less fun. I don't want to exclude certain legendaries by virtue of their rarity or strength but rather pmon that simply outclass others (like Mega Blaziken and Mega Gengar), and Smogon's tiers are good at defining what is op and what isn't. There's no reason we couldn't familiarize people who don't know the terms with them.

Before we discuss this here any more we may want to make an "official" thread of sorts or something somewhere so we can get the details and stuff figured out.

 

I did list some Pokemon that I felt didn't have a place, but, as the second part of your post implies, I feel we should just make a specific thread for all this.

 

Too bad Smogon never fully finished classing the X/Y pokemon for each tiers. Only some of them are on their list, so it's hard to tell what's in each class except for the already classed pokemon

 

It' could be pretty beneficial to make a Social Group for it. Acts like a mini-forum and you can have separate threads for rules, line-ups, and so on.

 

it'll be up in time i'm sure.
They just updated their site a week or so ago with XY so it may be coming soon.

that's just what I was thinking.

 

Would you guys prefer making a new Social Group, or sticking with one of the currently existing Pokemon ones?

 

we should give each other friend codes if we don't have them.

 

would be easier to start clean with a new one since this has one has a specific purpose

 

How about No Legendary Pokémon period.

Why is this a thing?

Eh, I guess I could get behind this.

That is a silly rule to impose.

Why?

How about no Mega evolutions?

 

The evasion thing was probably because it just go too overpowered at times. The no 2-of-the-same pokemon rule is nice because it makes you make of a team with variety. And you can't really deny Mega Evolutions because it's become a main part of pokemon battles now.

 

Its only overpowered if the one it's being used against has no idea what they are doing.
But what if someone's preferred team has more then one of a single species of a Pokémon and what to use that team?
You can get along fine without Mega Evolutions. Besides if we are going to say you can't use this Mega Evolution (this being whatever Mega you feel is overpowered) then to make it fair none should be used.

 

You can know exactly how it works and still not do anything. That's just how evasion works.
If their preferred team has more than one species, it's changed. That's just how the competitive battles work. It makes you think about how to make a working team.
And since Mega Evolutions are a different type of pokemon, it's fine to ban a specific one than all of them. It's a stat raiser, so a weaker pokemon gets stronger, or an OU pokemon becomes Uber. That's why no one needs to ban mega evolutions

 

Because legendary =/= OP. There's no reason Phione should be banned for the same reason Mewtwo is banned.
There are already many elements of luck to a game. Moves that decreases accuracy or increase evasion decrease how competitive a game can be while giving all of the advantage to one player. It's kinda the same idea behind only being able to put one pokemon to sleep at a time.
No, it's not at all.
Because, like legendaries, Mega =/= OP. There's no reason Mega Ampharos should be banned for the same reason Mega Gengar is banned.

 

The reason I say ban all Legendaries and all Mega Evolutions is not because of "who/what is OP and what is not" but more "It would be a lot easier to just ban them all and call it a day then make a list on what is okay and what is not."

I still don't think we should ban the moves that increase evasiveness.
Who cares? If a guy wants to use two Pokémon of the same species why should we say he can't? If he gets his ass kicked because of it then tough luck for him for his poor team management.

That's crap but whatever.
Yes it is.

 

Well you don't have to make the list.
Explain.
Explain how using 6 HA Blazikens wouldn't be the most ridiculous thing ever.

 

I don't know what would be on that list to begin with. Besides they could all be beat by a level one Rattata that was bred to have the right moves and given the right equipment.
They can be used for legit strategies. Deal with it.
No idea what HA is. Besides, Water-Psychic = get wrecked.

 

Most of the rules listed above including the evasion, multiple sleep, and multiple of the same pokemon are fair. There is a reason these things aren't allowed, and I really don't feel like playing if this stuff slides under the radar.

 

There are plenty of Legendary Pokemon that are only about as strong as non-Legendary Pokemon, like Entei or Keldeo. Only thing that makes them Legendary for all intents and purposes is their part in the story and their rarity. Meanwhile, Arceus and Darkrai, for instance, both have extremely powerful stats, abilities, and moves, with few reliable counters except other Legendary Pokemon.

Simply to reduce the frustration of one party constantly being unable to be hit. However, I'm thinking that it'd be ok to do away without it. I just really, really don't want to see people spam it.

Believe me, it wouldn't be fun if your entire party is sleeping.

Not at all; it forces you to strategize and diversify. Yes, it wouldn't be impossible to take down a team of six Charizards (or, hell, even that tough to counter,) but I'd really strongly prefer people actually putting more thought into team building than "SIX OF THIS ONE"

That specific cycle would mean one Pokemon is constantly healing itself for as long as it likes. Not fun if you're being damaged passively (Burn, Poison, Sand, Hail, etc.)

As with the Legendary Pokemon, there are plenty of balanced Mega Pokemon. Mega Aggron and Mega Ampharos, for instance, are perfectly balanced, with plenty of counters for either. Also, including Mega Pokemon lends an extra element of strategy.

Do remember though: if you want, you can choose to have individual battles without any of these regulations. I'm simply trying to figure out a good way for the majority of KH-Vids people who play Pokemon to play in our organized tournaments with some sense of balance.

 

I still don't know how we are doing this. :\

 

What we could do is figure out a tournament bracket size first of all. Then, have people sign up until we fill all of the slots. Use a randomizer to make the matchups. Have people battle, and then save the footage for everyone else to watch, thus allowings us to verify who won and if they won fairly (according to whatever rules we end up agreeing on.) This goes on until someone wins the tournament.

An alternative to using actual Pokemon would be using the Pokemon simulator, but I'm not sure how many people would want to do that. Right now, I'd honestly prefer using our actual Pokemon.