What I feel when arguing evolution with creationists.

"The only true wisdom consists in knowing that you know nothing."

 

Calm down, Socrates.

But true, everyone is entitled to their opinions.
I mean, Hitler was just exercising that right.

 

Having opinions=/=Acting on opinions

 

Beat me to it.

 

I don't see why the difference matters.
When does the line between having an opinion, stating your opinion, and acting on opinion become relevant?

 

having one doesn't affect others. Stating and acting upon it can.

 

When it infringes on another's ability to express their opinion to the same degree as oneself.

 

Not even stating your opinion is inherently wrong. Saying that you hate homosexuals is alright, albeit extremely bad for one's health. Taking measures to make them not exist anymore is absolutely wrong.

 

I like that I have a nap and the whole world explodes.

 

Don't worry, the world won't end without you. It wants to look you in the face when everything you know, love, and hate crumbles to dust before your very eyes.

 

Touching, but you forget I love nothing and hate all, cuts down on time by 33% so I can get some more zzz's

 

See, this is another reason I don't like creationists. The reason they are creationists is because they take everything the bible says completely literally. You know, that book written by PEOPLE over several hundred (thousands with the Old Testament) years. People make errors. People lose things in translation. More importantly, people make stuff up.

If creationism is true, then by the same logic we must also accept that everything in the Bible is true. That is, we are all descended from two people (YAY INCEST ON A MASSIVE SCALE) and that we are to blame for everything they did wrong, and if you aren't a Christian then you are going to suffer unimaginable pain and horror the rest of eternity, and you will deserve it, no matter how nice of a person you are.

I for one, am much happier in my belief that I do not live in such a cruel reality. The fact that it actually makes more logical sense that way helps.

 

I believe in Reaperism. :B

 

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Trigger again.

 

Comments like this are hilarious to me

because they're like a pyrophobic pyromaniac hastily lighting a small fire, giggling over it for a few seconds, then bolting before it turns into a raging inferno

If you don't want the war, don't fire into the crowd.

That's if you consider "truth" to be a value that can be increased or decreased, as opposed to a "true - not true" binary. In the latter case, if you study enough epistemology you come to realize that comparatively speaking we're all gibbering idiots :L This is all in the case that one holds "truth" as an external, flawless entity to be sought and attained, which I do not. But my brand of truth tends not to be what everyone's talking about when they use the word.

It's a common misconception that your mother-*brick'd*

...Why is Chris one of the only people I'm not mad at in this thread

Is it Opposite Day

That image is funny on multiple levels because if this were Futurama then you could actually move to another planet :L

Misty, I like you. I like your attitude, I like your posts. Except these ones. Where you feel the need to be defeatist about tough discussions. If people's beliefs go unchallenged their whole lives, they become mentally and (possibly) morally weak. Fact is different from belief, and any belief can spring from any set of facts; the theist's challenge, when faced with scientific fact, should not be to shut it out and pretend it doesn't exist, but to work with it and adapt the belief system as needed. Don't tell me it can't be done or isn't done; it's been done for hundreds of years with eastern religions, and even Christianity in all its myriad forms. People deserve better than to be put down for what they believe, but they also deserve better than to be coddled and called stubborn.

Not to mention, posts where you call for people to stop trying to change each other's minds since we're apparently all so stubborn are really hypocritical. If folks are so hard-headed, are we to believe they're any more likely to change their minds about their ability to change others' minds? Are you gonna have a revelation from this post alone? Probably not, but the point is made. If people are entitled to their beliefs, then let people believe that they have a truth they need to share, or at least a pretty convincing view everybody else ought to think about. The correct response is not to tell them to shut up, but to get them to use data and real arguments instead of being obnoxious and spiteful.

tl;dr if you wanna tell people to stfu, you better damn know some sign language, else you ain't practicin' what you preach darlin'. :v

p.s. that song is pretty boss

 

To clarify on the hypocritical part, since I think it may be hard to read for some:

What I read was this: "If they are so stubborn about the beliefs they are arguing, then why won't they ignore your attempts to get them to stop? Wouldn't they be stubborn about whether or not they could change minds, too? And if they do listen to you and concede that they cannot change the minds of those they argue with, then haven't they just proven that they are not so stubborn after all?" And so on. Though I may have been misreading it myself, as I do from time to time.

 

Yes, thank you for clarifying. I couldn't figure out how to word it dfgdgdffhhgdfhg.

 

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