Kingdom Hearts II What happened to Ansem the Wise.

You don't have to apoligze,
just don't always asume you're right is all.

 

Yeah,you never know.Any of us could be right.Nomura is the only one who knows.

 

I think that radiant light that begun to shine was Ansem's good bye meaning it was him.

 

What light, where in the game is that specified?

Sorry for the questions,
but I'm confused there
at your theory.

 

try not to belittle other people's opionions,
Perhaps Rose didn't speicfy what she meant to.

His sounds quite logical actually.

 

Sorry.I guess it might make sense.Could he be right?

 

You two.

Stop, right now.

Ansem is dead. You don't really need any theories to figure this out, just facts.

1. The last moment he's seen in person is the explosion
2. He's never mentioned again throughout the game (even if it is the end)
3. He served his purpose in the story

You can go on and bash each other til the end of the day. I'll take my logic and go home.

 

I am not bashing your opion,
I'm just saying
it is possible and not possible for
Ansem to have survived that blast.

Since it's possible to bring him back,
they just might,
due to the fact of good-business.

 

I didn't say that you were bashing my opinion, you and Wisdom sound pretty childish right now, that's all.

I really don't care about Ansem now. You guys got on my nerves :sideways:

 

I remain by the fact that no one is dead unless we see their remaining body lifeless in games and anime. It wasn't exactly a normal explosion, more like light, and the machine was suppose to be data encoded in terms of power. He might be data, in another vortex stuck in particles, or some other excuse that can work if Nomura wants to bring him back if he feels it so. Just saying.

For now, he's considered dead. If he never appears, then it is fact that he's dead.

 

But its a kids game...

A body lying there after the explotion would be too morbid!

 

I don't think it would be too morbid, if Ansem is just lying there, not wounded, as always, and about to pass away slowly with last words, then is fine. Like they did with Axel. CoM also has the most violence and cruel deaths, and that won't match that. Sides, I'm not especifically asking for a body xP, just full factual confirmation. I mean, nobody said anything except appear sad.

Then they were like, "Okay! Let's get Xemny! 8P"

 

Isn't that exactly what happened?

Minus the body?

Also, in CoM... they were sprites, not actual 3d realistic looking like in KH 2. You can get away with more the worse the graphics are.

 

Not really. As I said, if you don't see it, then you can't be sure. Any director can pull anything out of their butt if it's left open-ended that way. In my opinion, I hope he does stay dead, as that would ruin his sacrifice. And...he's not needed anymore, as said before by someone, his character did his job and disappeared with answers for his mistakes. Doesn't mean he's dead, though xD.

But then there is Re: CoM. America might not have got it, but YouTube will protest. As well as KH-Vids.

 

Agreed.
Edit: nothing more to say

 

I would say that Ansem the Wise died in that scene at the end of the game. I think the point was symbolic that he was done with revenge and also had come to peace within himself which when a death scene is going to happen, that sometimes is the way to go. Maybe he went on to the cycle of life etc but it seems that he's well gone from future games as I doubt his physical body made it through that explosion. Riku was knocked down and took the second most blunt of the attack and it cleared the form of Xehanort's Heartless from him so I'd say at least there Ansem lost his physical body.

As for why it was left to some 'vague' mystery with no body laying there...if Ansem had died with an end speech ala Axel, his body was material. Axel is a part of a somebody which is where he returned to. When the Nobodies 'die' they lose their physical forms as in they vanish since that which held it together is no longer able to. With Ansem, if they had killed him and he died saying words and all, his body would have remained there because he was human, like Sora or Riku, so the body wouldn't have been able to feasibly break apart as the Nobodies had who had lost their original bodies. Hope that makes sense.

 

I think he might have been transported to the realm of nothingness. I dunno seems possible.

 

Well im pretty sure he'll be in BBS. But he had his "final resolve" so i'm pretty sure the light blasted him out of existence.

In kingdom hearts what happens if too much dark envelopes someone? They lose their heart. I believe the same thing can be said about AtW

 

I believe he is alive.

I think this due to my own little rule, "If a character is not lying mangled in front of you, he can be alive" and the Sonic series. Nothing makes you more suspicious than having Shadow die, come back, become a clone, then become original again.

But onto my theory.

Ansem is not a normal human. He has the exact same things as Riku in kh1, minus soul eater. He can control the darkness. He has a strong heart. This means he very well can experience that explosion, then return in some form.

His heart told him to stay where he was. Why would it do that? Suicide is not the motive, I am sure. His heart told him to stay. I will assume a heart has a healthy sense of self preservation. This means that his heart must have known something productive would take place due to what he did. Sort of an Obi-wan/Gandalf thing.

DiZ vanished in a massive explosion of light. This was strong enough to exorcise Riku. Why would he go to the realm of Darkness?

I think he will come back stronger than before. Perhaps as the King of Hearts. (Different theory.)

Whatever it is, I strongly doubt that it was as cut and dry as people are trying to make out.

There, Base. Is this proof I have nothing against you out OoC?

 

Wow, I've never even thought about that "anything could happen" thing. But I do believe that Ansem the Wise died in that explosion. It knocked everyone else out, and they were standing further away. Since he was actually holding the thing, I think that it probably killed him.