What do you think of Gay Marriages?

Nowhere in the bible does it say HOMOSEXUALS ARE SUB-HUMAN AND SHALT BE TREATED AS SUCH. However in the book of Leviticus...which is the book of the bible that the bible thumpers cite it does say the following:

Then it goes into the beastiality verses. But what the aforementioned crowd fails to remember is the Golden Rule that Jesus preached quite often:

I'm sure we would be upset if the tables were turned on us and we couldn't marry. The Government denying heteros the chance to be wed, say for...population control for example.

I think we need to place ourselves in their shoes and think how we would feel. I know it is every little girl's dream to be married. Most girls have their dream wedding planned out by ten years old.

But what if a gay man/woman wanted that same happiness to know that they spend the rest of their life with their partner and no one else?

And for all the 'stone throwing' for this thread I'd like to leave you with this well known quote to end this post.

 

Hmm...that's clever. I just now understood what that meant. I like that quote.

 

Yes I rather like the fact I've had twelve years of a Christian education.

I know how they think...

 

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I went to a christian night school that held 2 hour classes every Wednesday night for 8 years. The year that I was getting confirmed I dropped out lol. Kinda glad I did...no offense to the christian religion of course.

EDIT: Wow! I was watching Robot Chicken and they just used that phrase "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." What a coincedence. Think it's a sign? lol

 

Um not really...And what is robot chiccken anyway?I don't know it...

 

Well actually God looks at everybody the same. Maybe in some people's crazy views they're sub human. I'm Christian as you can all tell but I'm not a radical that might say something like they're sub human. And I know nobody said I was a radical but I'm just saying that so nobody will be like we never said you were a radical.

Thanks. After yesterday I'm really happy someone finally noticed.

First off nice use of "ya know?" at the end. I know people can't always go by the Bible. God doesn't expect people to always do what he says. And that is what sin is. It isn't exactly "okay" to sin once in a while. You're not supposed to just purposely go against the rules but people always do. And that's why humans shouldn't be allowed to ever make any decisions God should decide everything. JK! But really God is the only one that knows if gay marriage will be legalized and hey if it is I wont complain. I mean if it's legal and I don't need to witness it I'm fine. But if they make a big deal which they will they don't deserve to have gay marriage legalized. They only circumstance where I could ever be fine with it is if they don't make a big deal about it. Well actually according to C_S_I_Girl I'm perfect but I know I'm not.

I sorta see how that goes along with what we're talking about but still it's sorta irrelevant. I understand the metaphor but using Robot Chicken in a debate seems kinda immature. Ya know?:D:D:D

 

The first statement is entirely up to interpretation, I will not make a comment on that.

As for your credit, also debatable, you've been preaching the same point depite the valid counterpoints people like Saix have made. I don't know if you're ignoring them or just don't have the time to find them, but lets give you the benefit of the doubt and say its the latter.

....Sorry Roxma but you just contradicted yourself with a REALLY weird point. "Not make a big deal"?? They're being barred and you're saying they shouldn't make a big deal? They aren't forcing you to watch their marriage, they're barred because of your "fellows" and have been for a long time. It's escalated to enough people so that it is a big deal. And....you're making a rather pompous decision right there, saying "if they don't make a big deal about it, which they WILL, then they don't deserve it". That's a rather harsh declaration right there, tell me are you representative of God in the bibblical sense? Or is there a quote that says that in some ambiguous way in the bible?

But anyway, you made a rather big contradiction....how can you NOT make a big deal over something that has ALWAYS been barred to you? Or is your solution to simply"make them move to Canada" as you said ealier? I believe you also stated that "Satan would have a big victory" if it was ever allowed in the US, so aren't you also making a big deal?

 

How did I contradict myself? By saying they would make a big deal about it. And the thing is some people say yeah i doesn't bother me as long as I don't have to witness it. Well they're gonna have to. If gay is allowed then we'll never hear the end of it. Well if they're all like ha we're getting married and there's nothing you can do to stop us. That'll be the day America dies. Don't get me wrong I have nothing wrong with homosexuals being together and living together. But you already know my views on gay marriage so I wont repeat myself. But if you think about what churches would allow same-sex marriage to happen in their building.

I don't know where to start on how unintelligent that part was. The thing isn't whether or not I make a big deal it's if homosexuals do. And if I wanna make me point maybe I need to go over the top but I don't want to. And really what would be wrong with them moving up to Canada it's a beautiful place and gay marriage is legal there so I mean why not. If you really love somebody you would go how ever far you have to to get married to them so you could spend the rest of your lives together.

I bet if everybody in this thread was against gay marriage you would be too. You seem like one of those people that don't have their own opinions they just steal others. Same goes for a few others here. They are just gutless and I don't care what it takes I will never give up. I don't care if others think I have lost I will just come back stronger and stronger every time. I will never be silenced!

 

BY ALL MEANS ROXMA, PLEASE! Go over the top! How many times do we have to tell you - that's what you're suupposed to do! Either SAY what you really have to say with structed reasons or stop pretending you have major big guns to fire at us! No really! Stop this sh!t, you're totally driving me up the wall with your silly excuses.

And just so I don't sound so horribly off-topic...

I don't get it. So you know it's legal in other countries and somehow, for you, it's now okay for them to get married just as long as it's not in the states.

...What bloody side are you on ayo?!? >_< Did I miss an episode?!

 

Huh?

Well you never told me to do that before but if you insist.

The reason I'm fine with it happening in other countries is the fact I don't live there. And like I have said before if it was legalized here that's all I would hear for months.

Yall already know why I'm against gay marriage. I wanna know every single reason hwy you are for it. And who knows somebody might (not likely) have a reason I will agree with. Try to convince me. Convince that the the sick, wrong, and twisted is not to bad really.

 

GUYS...CALM DOWN!!!!

And...well...Roxma...all I can say is wow. You are truly ignorant.

For one: The day that gay marriage is legalized is the day that America is actually what it stands for. That statment "It'll be the day America dies"...oh my god it made me so ****ing angry I could kill you right now. America is based on FREEDOM...HAPPINESS...RIGHTS...LOVE. You're an idiot if you say that giving romantic freedom to people of a different sexual orientation then you is against America. And in all honesty, Satan should have nothing to do with this

Oh...and Gay people would not brag. Why would they brag? When black people gained freedoma nd rights, they didn't look at their former oppressers and go "HAHAHA!!! WE'RE FREE AND EQUAL YOU ******S!!!!", they looked at them and thanked them. Which is what Gay people should and would do. They should be happy, and you should be happy you live in a damn country where people can do this kind of crap.

And that "Why don't they all move to Canada" thing...that is the most ignorant statment yet. You might as well be a ****ing KKK member telling Blacks to move back to Africa.

Roxma, I understand that these are all your opinions and your views...but my god your views are so ignorant, sexist, and warped, I could explode at the moment.

 

I'm going to have to agree with SA & Cin. At one point you sounded like someone who was making arguments [not necessarily plausible ones, but arguments still] to support your beliefs, but with the "Move to Canada" statement you just sound like an intolerant homophobic.

 

I don't agree with Roxma's stupidity on this, however I do agree with RVR. Roxma went to the extreme with his ignorance. Personally, I don't think gays should be able to marry. Marriage was created to bring a man and woman together. Gays should have another way that isn't marriage. Marriage was made by the church and the church doesn't want gays to have it, I see no problem there. If they want a way to sanctify themselves as a couple then by all means go for it, just don't do marriages.

 

You are wrong. I was saying if people love each other enough then it shouldn't matter what they have to do or where they have to go to finally spend their life together. And as for that disgusting KKK remark I have to say you must have not thought that thought very well. Your whole response was full of blatant attacks on me. And well attacking people in a debate is something you don't do. Never call me a Klansman again. And how am I sexist? I don't get it. And that comment on wanting to kill me is not in anyway shape or for appropriate for a debate. Please when you respond don't just make it be an angry rant.

 

The whole issue with that is that gays already have a variety of ways to do that. But...it's not MARRIAGE. Systems like Domestic Partnerships, fake weddings, stuff like that, it's all fine and good. But many gays are christians, and though they understand that being gay is "wrong", they want marriage because it's the only true way for them to bring themselves togethor forever, as in, under the eyes of their god.

The diddferent ways for gays to unify themselves just...they aren't want gays want. What they WANT is marriage. Every other way is legal, marriage is religous, spiritual, and int he eyes of a christian, forever.

 

How, pray tell, does gay marriage affect you? No one will shove their wedding invitations in your face, obviously they'd keep to theemselves. It's their business, NOT yours. Secondly Cin makes a good statement about the bragging, which you 'fear' you'd be hearing for months:

Ciiiiiiiiiiin....stop being a hypocrite! DX

...And calm down! DDX

 

Lawl...this is AMERICA, buddy. I can call you a klansman if I want to, just like gays should be able to say and do whatever they want, including get married, it also means that they should be able to live here in America. They don't wnt to go to canada just to get married, because it's CANADA. Canada and America are two different places. Gays that have lived in America all their lives will not want to move to another country, or at least out of America. America is the greatest country int he world. By saying that gays should move to Canada to get married, that's like saying, "You don't belong here...you can be happy and content with your lives, but not in America.", which is, VERY similar to the ways black were treated during "peaceful" negotiations of KKK members.

 

Hate to break it to you, but christians hate gays so much they tried to ban a gay killed in the VT shooting from having a funeral. If they won't allow that then marriage is out of the question. It's what the christians want too, not just the gays. Everyone could honestly be happy if the gays forgot about marriage and created a way that's spiritual, unifying, last forever, etc. Seriously, they could make that happen if they wanted to. Gays go against the christian teaching, letting them marry would be an insult to their religion.

 

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Yeah StupidAquarius, I wrote Calm down before I read all of Roxma's other posts. It was only after I read the rest of his posts that I became ammazingly aggrivated.