What came first, the chicken or the egg??

yeah but something has to lay that egg
like some animal from the past that didnt come from an egg must have mutated and eventually started laying eggs

 

It can be either or both.
The chicken, because you couldn't have an egg without a chicken.
Or the egg because the chicken that made the next egg came from an egg...xD If that makes sense.​

 

well it has to be one cant be both

 

Read the post. And understand it too.
A reptile has obviously laid the egg, but regardless of the creature who stood at the base of this, it is still called an egg.

The concept of "egg" goes as far as sexual reproduction, wherein an ovum is synonym for an egg. This form of reproduction has existed long before avians roamed the skies.

 

It can be both.

Because if there's an egg there, a chicken laid it. So that would mean that the chicken came first in order to lay the egg.

But that chicken that laid the egg was first laid itself. Which would mean that the egg came before the chicken that had the egg after it was born. o o;​

 

how is it still called an egg?

but maybe the chicken wasnt layed maybe it evolved from something

 

How is it not? One of the many synonyms of the term "egg" is still "ovum"'.
Are you going to question that a chicken preceded the ovum itself? It would make my day to see you try. :D

 

what does "ovum" mean?

 

Ovum means "haploid female reproductive cell"'. In other words, the kind of cell girls release every month or so. It's a synonym for "egg cell".

 

ok but why is it so funny to say that the chicken preceded the ovum itself?

 

Not what I meant. XD
Chickens, as with almost all birds, evolved from dinosaurs.

 

Well, eventually, everything can be traced back to a random accumulation of amino acids (forming naturally) that fortunately combined to form the first cell. Everything came from that one chance accumulation, about 3.5-4 billion years ago.

 

^This.

Modern day birds evolved from prehostoric birds such as Gastornis, who evolved from creatures left behind after the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs hit. They of course, being birds, laid eggs. Even before them, dinosaurs laid eggs. And I'm sure even before that the creatures that evolved into the dinosaurs had some sort of egg or ovum that aided in reproduction.

Chickens are relatively new in our world. So it has to be egg.

/end science lesson

 

I can't believe my post was completely ignored by everyone but Styx ._. And then Styx expanded on what I said and was then ignored D:

 

Well my idea was maybe said already but I am too lazy to check, anyways, maybe the chicken was laid and not hatched and then after millions to billions of years of evolution, the chickens became able to lay eggs and they didn't have tenticles or any other weird appendages...lol...but ya, that's my theory....

 

I just read your post. Of course, I agree.

Anyhow, the egg was first. I don't have to explain right now as I'm sure this thread has explained everything and I would simply be repeating things.

 

As pointless as this argument is, it's fun to see all the responses. Personally, I have no idea. It could be either one. Usually I have a firm stance when it comes to a debate, but whether the chicken or the egg came first doesn't matter much to me, so I don't. ;)

 

Here's my take on it: An organism that didn't lay eggs gave birth to an organism that was one genetic step closer to being a modern day chicken. This new organism could lay eggs, and over time, it propagated, every one in a couple hundred generations having one organism within it that had a favorable mutation. These favorable mutations compiled until the modern day chicken hatched from an egg. So, in short, the egg.

 

The Chicken had to come first because there would be no egg without the chicken

 

Guess again. It wouldn't hurt to read the previous replies in a Debate Corner thread every once in a while, you know?