Kingdom Hearts II Way To The Dawn

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  1. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Actually, that's not really dumb. That.... kinda makes sense... Although it does have a COUPLE problems...
     
  2. Roxas- PARTYMAN MORE LIKE HOMOVAN 73M SUCK MY B****!

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    You know Zexion.....that sounds really good.
     
  3. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Yeah.. and here's one of those problems.. Where is Soul Eater and why does Way to Dawn look so much like it? (I wanted to see Riku turn Soul Eater into that long double-bladed version Xehanort's Heartless used while he was plugged into the World of Chaos..)
     
  4. Anderson (☞゚∀゚)☞ You've lost the game.

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    There's only two theories I can think of right now. When Ansem the Wise's machine blew up, Riku was no longer darkness, right? Well, I think the machine's explosion had also had an effect on the Soul Eater. I think it configured it's appearance and powers. The other theory I have is that when Riku walked on the "road to dawn", he had gained the Way to the Dawn then. When Riku met Ansem and chose the darkness, Riku never used it to hide his identity against the light since Mickey had stated "His eyes couldn't lie."
     
  5. Storrini Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Yeah. That and Zexion's theory are believable, somewhat. Though the machine blowing up, "Anything could happen" thing is a little vague. Hey, maybe it also gave Sora the ability to turn into a Hamster. He just never did though.

    Though, I think the keychain belonging to Ansem is actually something that could be correct. Dunno if the whole Roxas fight is part of it, necessarily.
     
  6. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    1. He had Way to the Dawn before that happened...
    2. It's the road to twilight, not the road to dawn. Riku said it leads to Dawn instead of nightfall which doesn't change the road just where Riku will end up.Please for the love of god learn to read people.
    3. Again, he still had souleater when he used Way to the Dawn....
     
  7. Jade Rhade King's Apprentice

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    That actually does make sense... but wait. I don't think it's the Heartless symbol; Riku doesn't control the Heartless. Unless there's something I'm missing, which is entirely possible. And plus, even if Riku had stolen Oblivion from Roxas, he wouldn't have been able to keep it... no, wait. Riku managed to steal the Keyblade from Sora and keep it for a while... *clutches head* I'm confused!

    ~Jade
     
  8. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    As long as you are one chosen by the Keyblade, if you can get your hands on someone else's Keyblade, it's all good. The original Keyblade of the world of light was originally meant to be Riku's, but with his desperate act with the darkness AND departure into it left it with Sora... and I'm supposing Sora's adventures and attachment to it, as well as the strength of heart he expressed when against Riku in his Dark Mode made it his again. Also, in the final battle with Dalmation Xemnas (lol) Riku passed his Way to Dawn to Sora, who used his Kingdom Key (or whatever Keychain the player was using) & the Way to Dawn together to beat the snot out of Xemnas... But anyone not specially chosen to wield a Keyblade, if THEY grasp it, 'bout a second after it'll just disappear and reappear in its true wielder's hand.. So, Riku COULD have kept the Oblivion fair-and-square.

    I actually don't agree totally with Zexion's post, that Roxas' Oblivion Keyblade went into Riku's possession and THAT is the Way to Dawn.. cuz ya have to remember how many stinkin' Keyblades there are and where they come from... If they aren't the SAME Keyblades that we've seen before, just different keychains.

    Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) (Riku's)
    Riku: Kingdom Key (Light) (His own, recieved back from Sora)
    Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) (Riku's, now having chosen Sora as its master)
    Dark Riku: ??Dark Keyblade?? (Incomplete Keyblade forged by the 6/7 hearts of the princesses)
    Mickey: Kingdom Key (Darkness)
    Roxas: Oblivion + Oathkeeper
    Riku: Oblivion
    Roxas: Oathkeeper (passed Oblivion to Riku)
    TT Roxas: Virtual Kingdom Key (Light)
    TT Roxas: Oblivion + Oathkeeper
    Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) (first appearance since the start of KH2)
    Mickey: Kingdom Key (Darkness) (same)
    Valor Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) + Other Keyblade
    Master Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) + Other Keyblade
    Final Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) + Other Keyblade
    Genie: golden lamp keyblade with the lower-most part of the handle streaming from his tail.
    Roxas: Oblivion + Oathkeeper (during dream-fight w/ Sora)
    Riku: Way to Dawn
    Riku: the flowery keyblade he gave to Kairi
    Kairi: the flowery keyblade
    Sora: Kingdom Key (Light) + Way to Dawn (end of fight w/ Xemnas)

    So... main question is what was going on with Sora's & Roxas' keyblades.. in the case of Roxas losing to Riku, being put in Virtual Twilight Town, and Sora's drive forms.. AND the difference between the Way to the Dawn, and the keyblade Riku gave to Kairi.
     
  9. ZakuraRabbit Gummi Ship Junkie

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    There is one mistake regarding that theory. Roxas uses Oblivion twice after the fight with Riku. The first time is fighting Axel in Twilight Town, the second time is in The World that Never Was when he fights Sora.
     
  10. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    actually, way to dawn didn't appear until near the end of TWTNW. throughout all of the cutscenes, riku was using soul eater. after you beat luxord or saix and talk to him, he says that sora doesn't need riku's weapon, soul eater, yet. so therefore, he did not get way to dawn from the road at the end of CoM, and he didn;t get it until TWTNW. and somehow.....riku found another keyblade along with his to give to kairi. where are all these keyblades coming from? popping out of air for anyone who wants one.
     
  11. Soul eater and the way to dawn are the same blade...
     
  12. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Yeah... Still.. it's confusing enough... I always thought that the reason Roxas had two keyblades was because Sora was asleep, and his keyblade joined Roxas' OWN keyblade that he recieved the same way Sora did his. But then the drive forms got me confused.. and Roxas went and used both of his to fight Sora with... But Sora & Roxas are the most confusing.. Roxas having two nearly all the time.. and Sora going into his drive forms and recieving a second one temporarily.. It's confusing what happens there.. I mean, with drive form, I GUESS the hearts of Sora's party members who push Sora into his drive forms go to make the second keyblade.. maybe.. All I can be sure about is that the clothes have most to do with that. They help recover MP when all is lost, they turn Sora into his other-worldly forms (Atlantica, Halloween Town, Pride Lands) and allow him to go into Drive Form... The drive-form keyblades aren't explained... and Roxas & Riku are good about pulling random keyblades from their rear-ends...
     
  13. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    No they aren't. I nowdirect you to my quote...

     
  14. Lord Knight Xiron Hollow Bastion Committee

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    The Road to Dawn.

    I would like to clear up the issue of the roads. Go back and watch the video if you must.

    Riku: What are you making me choose now?
    DiZ: Which road will you take? The road to Light, or the Road to Darkness?
    Riku: Neither. I'm taking the middle road.
    DiZ: The Twilit Road to the Darkness?
    Riku: No. The Road to Dawn.

    Boo yah.

    Yeah, Since he didn't seem to have the Way to Dawn until after Ansem's machine went ker-plooie, I think that the digitized hearts took Xehanort's spirit away from Riku and turned it into the Way to Dawn keychain (the Heartless symbol that Xehanort wears around his neck), and Riku realized he could use a real keyblade again. No clue on where it actually came from, though.
     
  15. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    that reminds me, since riku chose to use xehanort's heartless power and he became darkness himself, he probably couldn't use a keyblade. he must have been way too dark or something. when DiZ's machine exploded, most of the darkness must have left him, bringing in the light and making him able to wield a keyblade.
     
  16. Zexion of the Twilight The conflicts within my priorities....

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    I'm pretty dang sure Riku used Way to the Dawn when he was fighting heartless in the cutscene befroe the match with Xigbar.
     
  17. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    nope, its soul eater, not way to dawn. soul eater the enitre time until you get near the end of TWTNW.
     
  18. Zexion of the Twilight The conflicts within my priorities....

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    I'll check, ok?
     
  19. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Point 1- As I said, you don't know how to read. Riku was commenting on where it lead, not the road itself. He said it would lead him to dawn instead of darkness. If what you said was the case and the road wasn't Twilt, Mickey would not have made so many comments before hand about Riku being in Twilight, and that means his road would still lead to darkness. Which leads me to point two...

    Point 2- F*ck you. In all honesty, it's a very simple thing to comprehend. There are 4 roads, the road to the crossroads, the road to light, the road to darkness, and the road to twilight (hence why it's twilight town, not dawn town. It resides in the twilgiht unlike most worlds that reside in light, but have darkness, see the difference). All three roads however lead to different places, clearly twilight has more than 1 path since it's using two elements. He could either go crazy from the twilight and become dark, or using the dark could be his revelation and it could lead him to light, or dawn as Riku calls it.
    You'd be correct. He used soul eater in the Land of Dragons and in Twilight Town but he used Way to the Dawn everytiem he used a keyblade in TWTNW
     
  20. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    did he use way to dawn before xigbar? i forget that part, so sorry if i don't know. but after fighting luxord or saix, when you talk to riku, he says "you don't need my weapon, soul eater, or the power of darkness yet" i pretty sure thats what he said. correct me if im wrong.
     
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