Kingdom Hearts II Way To The Dawn

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  1. Jade Rhade King's Apprentice

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    Where did Riku get it? This is my theory. It may have already been stated by someone, or everyone else may already know this, but:

    I believe Way to the Dawn was created when Riku clipped a keychain to the Soul Eater. Any objections?

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  2. keyblader of a nobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    This is really simple. He got it when he went to the road he called "Road to Dawn" you should play the game or watch the vid here.
     
  4. Xadllas Traverse Town Homebody

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    I actually agree with you for once..
     
  5. Roxas- PARTYMAN MORE LIKE HOMOVAN 73M SUCK MY B****!

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    I Think you are right, Rhade.
     
  6. Jade Rhade King's Apprentice

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    Umm, no actually. Up until halfway through The World That Never Was, Riku had only the Soul Eater, not the keyblade Way to the Dawn. What Riku referred to as "the road to dawn" was when DiZ asks:

    "The road to dawn" mentioned there was more figurative than literal.

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  7. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    i agree with jade. at least, until something or someone explains it a bit more. but, for some reason, i think he gets it in kh2, not in CoM. if you remeber when you go to the land of dragons, a "black coated figure" appears several times, wielding soul eater, not way to dawn. but when they get to TWTNW, riku is seen using way to dawn. i believe he probably did what jade said, but found the keychain along his journey, or he made it.
     
  8. ZakuraRabbit Gummi Ship Junkie

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    What are the differences between Road to Dawn and Souleater? I've never been able to take a close look on the two.
     
  9. Roxas- PARTYMAN MORE LIKE HOMOVAN 73M SUCK MY B****!

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    What ZakuraRabbit said, there isnt much difference.
     
  10. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    im pretty sure thats why jade said she thought way to dawn was souleater with a keychain. they are both that redish-blueish color, with a turquoise "eye". basically, the only difference is that way to dawn has a light blue wing at the tip of the blade, and way to dawn has a keychain.
     
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    Ok here's how it goes: Riku joins the Heartless and he gets Souleater from Maleficent(I think) and when he goes to the road wich is "Road to Dawn" he got the keyblade and now he doesn't use Souleater.
     
  12. Chad Thundercucc The dharma of valvu; the dream of a clatoris

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    I think Riku found it on the floor next to a box of keyblades and said "Ooh! Shiny!!" and took it.

    But seriouly, I think soul-eater changed into the way to dawn, because of his disscission to stay neutral.
     
  13. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    It is immpossible for Way to the Dawn to have formed like that. Soul Eater still existed, and all the proof we need of that is after the Luxord fight. After the fight talk to Riku and he'll say, "Wow you've gotten strong, I guess you don't need my weapon, Soul Eater, after all." He can't offer something that doesn't exist. I believe Riku's heart finally became strong enough to call forth a keyblade on his own when he decided to fight against the darkness that it chose him.
     
  14. crazymigit182 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Here is my theory. I DON'T believe that he used a keychain on Souleater to make it Way to Dawn, because Souleater is NOT a keyblade. That's sorta obvious, plus he got it from Maleficent so if it was that would make her one, not Riku. Well, yes he did in Chain of Memories go down the "Road to Dawn." I don't take this completely literally, rather a metaphoric way of something else. When he goes down to Road to Dawn, it's a way of saying that he now understands that he is a keyblade weilder.

    *Quick interruption* I don't know if you've read this theory before about the four keyblade weilders, but I believe it. It also partly relates to the secret ending and the crossroads. One of the weilders from the paths is the light weilder, with no dark in their heart (like a Princess of Heart). One is twilight (just a nickname I'll give it for now), with mostly light and good in their heart. One is dawn which originally turned to the dark and realizing his sins later, returned to the light. One is dark, which I believe is the one figure coming up in the distance, who I also believe is Xehanort (it may not be the bald guy, you know. That figure could be anyone). And I just realized something (I still believe in this theory, but I'm having my doubts), that there are more than just those four weilders. Damn. Whatever, so as I was saying, each of these four (or maybe there are many weilders of each type who all pass it down), pass down their keyblade powers to someone else. The twilight (can't be light, they don't have light in their heart) originally went to Riku (before KH1) and he didn't know it. When he turned to the darkness, it was passed down to Sora (beginning of KH1). At that time, Mickey recieved the light keyblade (I don't know why, he's not completely light. Maybe as a necessity to get out of the darkness as he was in Kingdom Hearts?). Xehanort had, and had before, the dark one. He needed a body so he used Riku's (blah blah blah you know the story), and so through Riku used the keyblade, making Riku also a dark weilder. When Xehanort left Riku's body, Riku still had part of Xehanort in him, so he was still partly a dark keyblade weilder. Xehanort remained as one (until his death).

    Ok, so now that you've heard this, here's my speculation about the Way to Dawn. So Riku remained a dark weilder through basically all of Chain of Memories as well. But throughout the game, he began to understand more not to reject the darkness, but not to abuse it (all that stuff, whatever), as well as defeated MOST of the remains of Xehanort in his heart (he still had some left, thus the transformation in KHII). Also, if you hadn't noticed, Riku had the power of the dark keyblade all the way through KH: COM, but never used it. So at the end when Riku says "the Road to Dawn," he's meaning that he can't completely make up for all the things he's done, and that he's turning back to the light, making him part of the "dawn." This made him the dawn weilder, because he was originally dark, but returned to help the light. I do think that throughout ALL of KH2 he had the Way to Dawn, and he also had the choice of using the Souleater. At the point when you fight Riku in the Land of Dragons and he's using the Souleater, he's only doing that so he won't complicate things for Sora by having Sora fight an "Organization member" with a keyblade (although, inevitably, he fights Roxas later on who has two keyblades).
     
  15. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Ok I read about to here and now I have to say something. Does anyone realize the road is called the Twilight road?? Not the road to dawn. If you read what's being said carefully, Riku said it will lead him to dawn, not nightfall like DiZ said. He is not saying it isn't twilt. It is the Twilight road that has another crossroads, Nightfall and Dawn.
     
  16. Chad Thundercucc The dharma of valvu; the dream of a clatoris

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    Hmm, good point.
     
  17. Goofy Twilight Town Denizen

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    Ok, I believe that Soul Eater BECAME the WAY to Dawn, when he was relieved from his obligation to use the darkness in such a manner as taking on the form of Xehanort's Heartless (anyone else getting tired of calling it that) he became able to use the Keyblade once again, since while he looked like dark-skinned Xehanort, he was technically a Heartless and thus unable to essentially wield the bane of the Heartless' existence. Because as you noticed, when Xehanort's Heartless had full control of Riku's heart and body, he was still a regular living being (not gonna say human, since Donald, Goofy, Pluto, etc. aren't human, but they aren't Heartless or Nobodies either) technically, and therefore could grasp a Keyblade.. But once Riku took on Xehanort's Heartless form he BECAME a Heartless, who I can presume cannot wield a Keyblade. Once Riku returned to his own appearance, and then clothes, he was still able to tap into the dark powers drawn from the darkness in his heart (but strangely now unable to call other Heartless or open Corridors) but has regained himself, and the light side of his heart, rather then just relying on his mental plans to help Sora, so is then again able to wield a Keyblade... and I suppose something as close as a signature weapon can have an attachment to the heart..so it became the Way to Dawn Keyblade.
     
  18. Storrini Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Notice in some scenes of KH2 Riku still had the Soul Eater. D:

    When he was about to fight the dusks, Soul Eater
    When you fought him in the Land of the Dragons, Soul Eater.
    When he took his Organization cloak off and joined your party, Way to Dawn.

    Yeah, something happened IN KH2 and not just the road he walked at the end of CoM.
     
  19. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    My bets are that he obtained it when he found the light in his heart, which is when the keyblade realized he could use the keyblade, thus it became.
     
  20. Zexion of the Twilight The conflicts within my priorities....

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    Stop, everyone!!! I need to voice my stupid opinion:

    Everyone remember Xehanort's heartless had a Heartless Emblem for a necklace? Way to the Dawn has it for the keychain. That clears where the keychain is from. The actual keyblade, I think, was stolen from Roxas. Riku defeats Roxas with his Oblivion, replaces the keychain, and gives the Oblivion keychain to Sora.

    There, my dumb opinion.
     
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