Kingdom Hearts II Was Sora justified? *Spoiler*

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by Princess Celestia, Dec 30, 2007.

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Was Sora justified in destroying the Organization?

  1. Yes he was

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  2. No he wasn't

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  3. I dont know, dont ask me this question.

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  1. Amber PLUR

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    I thought this had already been settled....

    And the Organization thing is currently being argued in another thread...

    If you guys really still wanna argue here, I can back ICSP up...
     
  2. P Banned

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    Hmm.

    Entertaining. Please continue.

    Either of you need help?
     
  3. P E A N U T ~*~Never Surrender~*~

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    I think he was justified. I mean, the Organization was causing trouble in all the worlds, and it was Sora's job to take care of it.
     
  4. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Why would they need lawyers without law? Think about it...

    Not if you could prove you really were obvlvios... why do you think i used the Demyx example...

    Dude... do not bring up Hallow Bastion. It was a test at best... and it restored the life of the nobodies who died. They never intended to win.

    Well... in order for Axel to bring Roxas out... Sora would have to be consumed by darkness, despair, and anger. Axel needed Kairi to pull that off. How could Axel not want to hurt Kairi?
     
  5. Xegreny Kingdom Keeper

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    Lawl. Go ahead and back up whomever you'd like.

    *brain melts*

    Well, then that's Demyx. What about the other 12?

    Test or not, people (like Yuffie. Without Aerith, she've been killed.) almost died.

    Look how upset he got by watching her get taken away from him. I doubt violence would be needed to snap Sora like a twig. :X
     
  6. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Um... at this point 6 were dead. I doubt they knew anything ever. I also doubt Axel, Siax knew anything, since Xaldin did outrank them.

    Xigbar was almost on equal terms with Xaldin, and Luxord was in charge of giving out assignments... so they probably knew.


    Wait... which attack on Hallow Bastion are you talking about? The second? BWA HA HA HA HA HAHA!!!

    The nobodies were killing heartless until Sora attacked them and Malificent was commanding the heartless. Even then, most of them were still killing heartless. So... the Organization was defending the city... not really helping your arguement there.

    Do you think Axel cared about Kairi? If hurting her was faster he would have done it. Think about the CoM Axel. He was evil... not the nice guy Mr. Big Kataki he was in Kingdom Hearts 2.
     
  7. Xegreny Kingdom Keeper

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    If they wear the badge, they fall like the rest. If a big corporation has corruption at the top, but innocence at the bottom, the whole thing still goes bottom-up, right?

    And yes, the second. The Organization didn't do squat. They sat and watched, and talked to Sora, that hardly counts as "defending the city".

    In COM, doesn't Axel apologize or leave Namine alone, or something like that? Everyone said he was evil in COM, but I didn't think he was that bad. ._.

    I guess he could do that, but it also seems like the Organization is the kind to make others do things of their own will, so he'd probably just drag Kairi along. If he wanted to hurt her to get the job done, he would've done so, before she got captured by Saix, no?
     
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    Um, ICSP, you made one simple mistake. Look at the title.

    Sora never knew it was a test, he saw it as an attack. The first thing the org did was appear and attack. No negotiation, nothing. They appear, attack, manipulate Sora's friend, laugh at him and do a host of things to the worlds the second time around. Easy enough to see why Sora killed them?

    Now, I want to watch again.
     
  9. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Pika... while your at it... watch the second Hallow Bastion "attack". You'll love the fact that nobodies only defend themselves from Sora... but usually attack Heartless first.

    And yes... the Organization did help. How do you think the Dancers, and Dusk got thier to fight the heartless?
     
  10. Xegreny Kingdom Keeper

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    I don't remember any scenes where Nobodies were fighting Heartless, excluding when they destroyed the Heartless summoned by Maleficent, and attacked Maleficent herself.
     
  11. P Banned

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    Yes, fine, they helped. So? Rouge nobodies with a sense of justice, like the train station and Yen Sid tower ones were just "Rouge nobodies wanting to die"

    The fact still remains that the org struck first, taunted Sora, kidnapped Kairi etc.
     
  12. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Malificent is summoning heartless when Sora comes out of Space Paranoids. Dancers and Dusk are fighting them.

    They do not attack Malificent herself. You gain control of Sora as Malificent orders the heartless to stop attacking nobodies, and attack Sora.

    The nobodies and heartless will attack both each other and Sora at this point.

    Also, a Dusk was fighting a heartless when Goofy got knocked out. The blast was fired from a heartless (one of the shoop da whoop ones) towards a dusk, the dusk dodges it and a rock gets blasted off the ledge, and hits Goofy.
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    Actually... you are wrong... Dusk and Creepers are the Rogue nobodies...

    You, Repliku, and Destiny's Force made that quite clear.

    Creepers and Dusk attack Sora at the train station. But in the second battle of Hallow Bastion, Dancers are in the Mix... which shows that Organization XIII was in charge of those nobodies... yes, the ones which were defending the city...
     
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    Were they defending the city, or attacking heartless?
     
  14. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Is there a difference? If the heartless are attacking the city... its one and the same...
     
  15. .......

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    This is still alive? o.O Whoa.

    At least the debates are over.
     
  16. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Believe it or not it is...

    By the way... this is my reaction when I had to post the same arguements again....

     
  17. P Banned

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    Ah well. Doesn't change the fact that the org struck first.
     
  18. Princess Celestia Supreme Co-Ruler of Equestria

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    Nor does it change the fact that Sora killed millions of people by resisting Organization XIII.
     
  19. ROFTL!! xDDD Video is classic. Explains my feelings on the Court RP perfectly. At least right now anyway. The Larxene case drained me. I had to look over cutscenes, script, Naminé, blah.

    In the words of the Beatles:

    Let it be, let it be, let it be, let it be...

    Whisper words of wisdom...

    Let it be....


    That, and we're spamming >.<.
     
  20. Xegreny Kingdom Keeper

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    I need to play that part over again.. <_>
     
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