Viva la Console Wars!

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Jube, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. Tahno The official Charlie Sheen of Republic City.

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    Well. In my opinion. They are all equal, strengths and weakness are in all of these consoles, so...I wouldn't have any choice on which console would "win" the war, however, my favourite among these is the PS3.
     
  2. Senbonzakura Kageoshi Kingdom Keeper

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    okay who in this thread is a PS3 fan?
     
  3. Finale Wannabe Nobody

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    i hate the wii.

    It's just a suped-up gamecube with a sensor.

    to me the PS3 and XBox 360 is the best consoles.
     
  4. Xe54 Kingdom Keeper

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    I like the PS3 more than the 360 because of the free online gaming but thats as far as I take it I've got the 360 and soon I will have the PS3 because owning both of the systems with an HDTV will kick the most ass ever in the history on ass kicking.

    P.S. I don't like the Wii because it seems more like a childrens console, but it is fun to play the old titles, and yes, I have a Wii.
     
  5. TacoGrenade King's Apprentice

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    Sigh. I hate the whole "Console Wars" thing. Can't we agree they're all good systems? But if I had to choose one I'd say PS3. I'm talking in my perspective, because the PS3 has a lot of my favorite games like MGS4. The Wii is cool too, but the 360 just doesn't appeal to me much, game-wise. Sure Halo's pretty cool and Gears of War looks fun, but most games on the 360 are on the PS3 like Street Fighter 4, Devil May Cry 4 (You notice a lot of games are on their fourth?), and games like that. Also, the PS3 has some sort of chip apparently that makes the graphics more realistic, and the 360 is more cartoon-like. For me, the PS3 controller feels a lot more comfortable then the 360's. The PS3 also has free online which is great for people who play Call of Duty and such. All in all, the Wii's okay, 360 isn't that great, PS3 trumps them both. Again, this is my opinion. I own the PS3 and Wii, and I've played the 360.
     
  6. Senbonzakura Kageoshi Kingdom Keeper

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    i know!!! Xbox pales in comparison with PS3
     
  7. Cloud3514 Kingdom Keeper

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    It is generally accepted that XBox Live is superior for online play than Playstation Network for a couple reasons, mainly the fact that voice chat is a standard feature and better maintained servers, ironically thanks to the fee that Sony always decries as unnecessary.

    Incidentally, XBox Live is close enough to free at its price point. According to my calculations, a single month of XBox live is US$3.84 if you pay with 12+1 month subscription cards. Far cheaper than the average pay to play MMO.

    However, that's not to say that Playstation Network is bad. In fact, for a free service, it is phenominal. Though I do wonder how long before Sony decides to rethink the whole free thing because servers cost money and free doesn't generate money.

    Children's console? While I can't speak for the ridiculous amounts of shovelware, games like No More Heroes and Mad World are by far NOT child appropriate. Likewise, games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy and The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess are too deep to keep most childrens' attention for longer than playing through the main part of the game, if that. Hell, I don't know a single person, young or old, who has ever had enough patience and skill to get 100% completion in Super Smash Bros.

    Granted the Wii could be utilized much better (as said by myself earlier in the thread, I feel it is best as a companion console) and said shovelware (while mostly ignored by people wanting depth in their games) is flooding the market horribly.

    Considering that the 360 has far more exclusive titles, a considerably lower price point and a better online service....

    And the PS3 and 360 aren't just "suped-up" versions of their predecessors? Hell, the PS3 has a motion sensitive controller as well, its just that noone uses it.

    Well, this a great idea, but the rest of your post makes me fell like responding.

    Fair enough.

    Great job reinforcing the stereotype that those are the only games the 360 has to offer. I personally do not even own Halo 3 or Gears of War 2.

    In fact, for exclusives, I own Guitar Hero II (keep in mind, I'm talking current gen games, I am well aware of the PS2 version), Lost Odyssey, Gears of War (As said, I don't have the sequel), Mass Effect, Castle Crashers, and Star Ocean: The Last Hope. This is merely my collection. There are also games like Call of Duty 2, Left 4 Dead, Fable II, Tales of Vesperia and Crackdown.

    The reason most developers are putting out multiplatform games more often than they used to is simply because they realize that restricting their potential customers to just PS3 owners or 360 owners is not a good idea. The biggest selling games rarely sell over a million copies across all systems they are available on, despite approximately 50 million potential customers (nearly 100 million if a game is available on the Wii as well). Gone are the days when a big name game can come out for a single system and sell a million from that one system alone.

    Cartoony graphics have to do with artistic direction, not hardware capabilities. Though Wii developers tend to avoid realistic art styles due to the console's low power.

    That said, while the PS3 is technologically superior (though not as superior as Sony would have you think), this comes at two costs. For one, it is far more difficult to develop games for the PS3 as the 360 and few games use the PS3's power the way it could be used (in fact, Metal Gear Solid 4 and Killzone 2 are the only two games I can think of that probably take more power than the 360 is capable of, MGS because of Hideo Kijima's perfectionism and dedication, Killzone because of the literal billion dollar budget.) The second is the price tag. Currently, the cheap PS3 is US$400, double the price of the cheapest 360 pakage and the same price as the most expensive 360 pakage.

    Because of the relative difficulty in making PS3 games, multiplatform games are often made using the 360 as the base with the PS3 version coming after. In particular, games like The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion and Fallout 3 actually look and run better on the 360 than they do on the PS3 for this reason. However, games like Mirror's Edge are just the opposite thanks to being developed on the PS3 and ported to the 360. In otherwords, it mostly depends on which console the development was based on. However, the difference is generally not much.

    Blu-ray, however, is great. Absolutely great. 360 games are already going on multiple discs where as they would easily fit on a single blu-ray disc. This is the reason why I hope to have a PS3 before Final Fantasy XIII is released as the 360 version being on multiple discs is almost guarenteed (as well as most likely running better on the PS3 due to development being on it).

    Entirely opinion, though I do have to agree. They nailed the Playstation controller when they switched to the PS1's Dual Shock in the late 90s and they understand the idea of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Though the hinged L2 R2 continue to be the bane of my existance.

    As I said earlier, XBox Live is actually considered superior partially because of the fee. Also as said earlier, the fee goes to pay for server maintainence and better maintained servers means more reliable servers.

    PSN is nice, but I doubt it will remain free forever.

    Likewise, I own a 360 and Wii with extensive hands-on time with the PS3. I find that I can't decide which one I like more, however.
     
  8. Tahno The official Charlie Sheen of Republic City.

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    Each console has ups and downs...so, what's with the arguing???!@!@!
     
  9. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Because people only have enough money for one and won't admit that a PSWII60 this gen a is a gamers paradise. I would know. I own all three systems and honestly expect my tv to explode whenever I look at it and see all three plugged in.

    I still think Xbox is the system to get this gen. It has the most exclusives, most frequent updates, the best online system and servers, most games are made for the 360 then ported to PS3 before either version are released, etc. However besides the red ring it's only problem is that most of it's exclusives are B grade games other than GoW or Halo. The PS3 makes up for where the 360 beats it by having majority of it's games being AAA games if not better. It still lacks the great online though that the 360 has and doesn't have as many exclusives. Although, if we are talking about the system with the best exclusives it is sadly Nintendo. I say sadly because you would never expect it nor is it advertised that way but hte fact is Nintendo still makes the most fun exclusives yet I'd still rather have a 360 or PS3 due to the lovely multiplatform games like Fallout or CoD4 and of course beautiful HD graphics.

    That is just that.
     
  10. Fracture Sαlαmαndєr ™

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    I personally think that the X-Box 360 is superior.....even though the PS3 has amazing graphics.......
     
  11. Alphonsefanatic Traverse Town Homebody

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    You know, all I have to say about you who are promoting this console war is **** you. I've played Xbox for Halo 1 and 2, I own a PS2, PSP, and Wii. I love them all. PSP anmd PS2 I like a little more, but honestly I have respect for all systems.
    ***** got owned!
     
  12. Arch Mana Knight

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    They're all good systems...But really, why can't we all admit that the SNES is the best system? Eh? If not, then the PS2.

    But current gen stuff...they're all good and if I had the money I'd get them all, but I'm just a PS3 fanboy. Not as many games but it has the stuff I play. 8D
     
  13. Stardust Chaser

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    It's a natural human tendency to argue. *shrug*

    I like the PS3 myself, I just think that DVDs will soon be dead and that Blu-Ray is the way to go... Plus, I've always been more of a PlayStation person. But I shouldn't even be here, seeing as I don't own any of the current-gen consoles. =/.
     
  14. Jⱥy King's Apprentice

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    PS3 for the wind, xbow 360 was just pissing me off because you had to pay for everything, even to change your dashboard background, how stupid is that
     
  15. Cloud3514 Kingdom Keeper

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    And now, an objective view on the PS3 vs 360 debate:

    First, I own both PS3 and 360, as well as a PSP, a DSi and a Wii, I don't have a strong opinion one way or another and am here to point the pros and cons of both consoles in an objective way.

    First, hardware capabilities: Believe it or not, the two consoles are actually more equal than Sony would have you believe. Yes, PS3 is technically more impressive, but graphics wise, the better looking games are going to depend more on the developer.

    For multiplatform games, graphics are usually equal in effectively every respect. The biggest differences in graphical quality is generally going to be lower quality textures and/or a lower framerate. The version that is technically inferior usually depends on the version that was built first. For example, Fallout 3 looks and runs a bit better on 360 due to development being based on the 360 while Mirror's Edge looks and runs better on PS3 due to development based on the PS3, but for both games, the opposite versions are only marginally inferior.

    This is not to say that a port is always going to be inferior to the original. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion was based on the 360, but looks and runs better on the PS3 due to to the PS3's faster processor, but Ghostbusters was based on the PS3, but looks and runs better on the 360 for reasons I do not know.

    In the PS3's defense, the pre-emptive use of Blu-Ray was brilliant, despite the initial price. In the 360's defense, it is an easier platform for developers to work with due to similarities with development on the PC.

    Hardware wise, I give the nod slightly towards the PS3 due entirely to Blu-Ray.

    Multimedia Features: Both consoles play videos, music, display pictures, etc., but each system has their specific ways of doing things.

    The PS3 has its Blu-Ray drive, which is great if you have an HDTV, but is entirely useless for those without an HDTV.

    It can also recognize an external harddrive and play videos and music off of that, which would be amazing, but you have to have anything you want to play in a single folder on the root level of said harddrive, which is downright moronic. Even if your music collection is half the size of my constantly growing 63 gigabyte collection, that's still a few thousand songs on the root level of a harddrive that the PS3 will only sort by filename. The same applies for any video collection of significant size. It is the exact same problem the PSP has with its multimedia features and one would assume that Sony would have fixed such a stupid way of doing things before they put out the PS3.

    The 360, on the other hand, will happily read any major Mp3 player and will sort the music on said Mp3 player by artist and album. It will also allow video and picture viewing from the same portable player (assuming said player is capable of displaying pictures and/or video).

    Sure the 360 doesn't have a Blu-Ray drive, but it does have Netflix and, by the fall I believe will have Last.FM internet radio. The PS3 does have a video downloading service, but so does the 360. The PS3 also has no internet radio capability whatsoever.

    The PS3 does have an internet browser as well, but lets be honest, who the hell uses their console to browse the internet? If you say you do, then you are in the minority of people who find any use in the damn thing. I believe I've used my PS3's browser once, then never bothered again as it is quite useless.

    The next feature to be discussed is custom soundtracks. I love custom soundtracks. Playing Castle Crashers with 3 Inches of Blood playing in the background is one of the most awesome things I have ever experienced. Both systems have the ability to use custom soundtracks for any game. The PS3 used to be limited by only allowing supporting games to use custom soundtracks, but firmware updates have switched this feature to being firmware based like the 360's. Of course, as stated earlier, the 360 supports any major Mp3 player while the PS3's external harddrive support requires the music to be in a specific folder on the root level, which discussing my opinion on this would be a bit redundant right now.

    Hands down the nod is towards the 360 due to the ease of multimedia sorting, Netflix and Last.FM.

    Hardware Features: As stated before the PS3 has its Blu-Ray drive, which, as a person who got his PS3 partially because of the Blu-Ray drive, I like. It also has Wireless internet built in, two USB ports and, in the older models, card readers and 2 more USB ports, but that's about it.

    The practicallity of the card readers is about the same as the external drive support: almost none if you sort your files like a sane person. The practicallity of the USB ports is only increased by the controllers using them to charge (of course, with 7 available ports (a completely inexplicible feature if you ask me), good luck charging all of them) most third party hardware developers insisting on using USB recievers instead of the PS3's built in blu-tooth wireless (this is completely inexplicible to me, if anyone understands this, please tell me why, I would love to know).

    Speaking of blu-tooth, any blu-tooth headset will work with the PS3. The 360 has nothing on that one.

    The 360 has three USB ports and that's about it. Of course, as the application of external devices wasn't done in a completely stupid way, these are almost always full on my 360 (one always taken by my wireless headset's charging cable, one always taken by my controller's charging cable and one alternating between my Zune's charging cable and my Rock Band drum set).

    The 360 doesn't have built in wireless, however, only two types of people use it, 1) the people that have other choice if they don't want to string a wire halfway across their house and 2) complete idiots who don't realize that wireless connections are generally half the speed of a wired connection at their fastest.

    However, despite personal preference for the usefulness of the 360's hardware features, this one goes to the PS3 thanks to a combination of blu-tooth, blu-ray, built in wireless (which I do actually use as I don't use my PS3's online for multiplayer, just demos and downloadable content).

    Online: This one will be short: XBL has always seemed faster and more user friendly than PSN to me, so, despite the (minimal) fee, XBox gets this one. PSN's still a pretty good service, though.

    Software: Honestly, this one is a purely subjective debate, but both are actually equal. The difference in number of great exclusives is actually very small. Seriously, if you can't find at least 3 games on the opposite system that you want to play, you aren't trying hard enough.
     
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    Jet says:

    I'm kinda stuck between PS3 and 360. Even though i'm leaning more strongly toward the 360.

    I mean sure, They both offer awesome graphic and sound quality on great levels.

    But many games have specific "items" for the other system, the one won't accept.

    Take Batman: Arkham Asylum for example. On Xbox, you get the normal game with all of it's features and the same ass kicking batman we all know and tolerate. Then on the PS3, the same thing, BUT you can play as the JOKER!!!

    How do you pass up an opportunity like that?!

    But still, i'd have to stick with 360 because of it's certain features, and some games that i like are only for 360 anyway. xD
     
  17. Fayt-Harkwind Where yo curly mustache at?

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    Since the Wii sorta flopped in the creativity seeing how no one wants to really bother with its capabilities other than Nintendo that's pretty much lost (still very fun though and Nintendo still sucks in cash from the Gameboy). The Xbox wins it for the community of gamers it has mind you though, from what all my Xbox owning friends claim, they only run into angry Scottish people and noobs from Texas (I am not shitting you) so that really puts it off for myself as I don't like online play outside of an MMO or something like Tekken where I can beat the shit out of a friend while no where near him. The PS3 is superior in terms of machinary but the price and the fact Xbox came out first crushed it and took away many games. All in all I still think the PS3 comes out on top with the Wii second followed last by the Xbox 360 seeing how I don't see anything new about the 360 while the Wii has a completely new gameplay for a console and the PS3 has a Blue Ray Player. Besides, the Xbox was one of the most unoriginal things i've ever seen and the 360 is no different.

    Well, that's how I view it (hence why I own everything but an Xbox 360 :lolface:)
     
  18. Mielé Banned

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    You no longer have to have your stuff in the root folder.
    Hit triangle and choose View All to view every folder and file as is on the drive.
     
  19. Luka Deafening silence

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    Wasn't that always possible?
    I was able to do it ever since i had my PS3 back in January.
     
  20. kingdomfarts Moogle Assistant

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    Totally agree with this post. Fantastic comparison.


    But, knowing the fanboys, they'll always think of a way to become objective and have their systems favoured. Knowing that this situation might occur, I'd like to say that, for whoever it may concern, that the company doesn't give a s*** about your fanboyism. As far as they're concerned, they only care about your money. Defending them is just beyond sad, as they'd rather go do their own business than be proud of your so-called fantastic "achievement" of convincing someone to buy your favourite system.

    So, in other words, fanboyism won't get you anywhere. If you'd like to debate, you might as well present it logically, while putting your nostalgia and personal feelings aside.