Birth by Sleep Ven/Roxas Theory

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by renteka-bond, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. Zeonark Kingdom Keeper

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    No offense but that sounds completely...crazed.

    Like everyone stated, the dark keyblade didn't exist 10 years ago prior Kingdom Hearts. Also to back it up, the fact that he asked Terra to "Erase him" not "Seal" him. Meaning that he more than likely disappeared in some way.

    Brexen go to the scene after the second Axel fight. Then prove yourself wrong please. He said "Next life", he said that he had a heart in the Axel and Roxas scene after the Roxas battle.
     
  2. Boy Wonder Dark Phoenix in Training

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    I just watched that video and not once did Axel say "silly just because you have a heart"
    i think you're gettin the Twilight Town battle scene mixed up wit this scene
    The whole conversation on the clocktower -word for word- went like this:
    Axel says Roxas has finally woken up or maybe he's finally going to sleep, he won't be able to contact his consciousness anymore,etc. and then

    Axel: "I've thought about it a lot, Namine said the same thing: Roxas... you have a heart, don't you? While Namine and I...we don't really have hearts do we?"
    Roxas: "I....I don't know either"
    Axel: "I guess not..."
    Roxas: "But, the heart's not something you can see. I've started wondering if it's something you can't feel either....If so, then.... nah never mind."
    Axel: "Hm? What're you getting at?"
    Roxas: "I'm sure Sora'll find the answer, because he's me"
    Axel: "Yep thats true."
    Then the ice cream, then the goodbyes

    Now the only "confirmation" that Axel says about Roxas having a heart is Axel asking if he has a heart while Roxas doesn't deny it, it seems like he's not sure (but the hearts not something you can see or feel)
    And even if he did, how would Axel and Namine find out? I think Axel would've come out and said "you have a heart" or something, and he said Namine didn't have a heart, but does she seems heartless to you? like the other OrgXIII members?
    It seems more like Axel knows Roxas is special and different from other Nobodies, not necessarily because he "has a heart".
     
  3. Vaxing Twilight Town Denizen

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    i am not a good theorist but i know what theories I like and don't like. so far the idea of Ven dying and his body being used as a makeshift base because Sora became human again too quickly. that makes the most sense to me. the other relationships that people come up for Sora and Ven just seem like Grade A Horse Dung to me. Ven can no way be Sora's father because Sora is already 4 or 5 in bbs. Ven had to loose his virginity pretty damn early. as for being brothers i see no evidence to support it, you would think Sora would have SOME recolection of having a brother. and why would Roxas take the form of Sora's brother or father instead of Sora himself anyways? so yeah there's my two cents.
     
  4. renteka-bond Traverse Town Homebody

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    I think we've all established that I was wrong on that part. But, It is completely that Terra didn't kill him. I'd think it'd be pretty hard to just off your best friend just cause he said to.

    Nomura said that they were connected to the SRK team in accordance to their names, but maybe he only meant storywise, Like how Terra is Xehanort, connecting him to Riku, Ven is Roxas, linking him to Sora. It'd be more likely if Terra was Sora's Father than Ven, simply because he's older.
     
  5. Finale Wannabe Nobody

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    2 problems

    1. BBS is before KH1
    2. The blade is created by the hearts of the princess's of heart.