Vampire, Werewolves, the undead....untrue?

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  1. Peace and War Bianca, you minx!

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    Throughout history from many cultures, the use of mythical creatures and immortal people/creatures has been numerous. The question I ask is that does anyone believe that any particullar creatured lived?
    and please don't just say 'yeah, history says they did!' I want more of the possibilities that theey could have or not happened.
     
  2. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    In the Bible,
    David killed a pagan God,
    which was a Dragon.

    And I have seen ghosts first-hand,
    myself.

    Werewolves?
    Well, I am one.

    Ok, the last one, I am just kidding about,
    but the others are true.
     
  3. Luna Lovegood nani panda-kun

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  4. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I don't believe in what I haven't seen

    Werewolves and vampires have only existed in fiction but I guess some fans of said fiction genre got too attached into the stories and started tryin' to make 'em real. XD
     
  5. Xephos Neko, gamer, animelover, and artist :3 *purrs*

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    I always thought of werewolves to be true but I guess It's just a figment of my imagination and then about ghosts, my pastor said they are demons from hell in diguise of that person trying to tempt you to sin.
     
  6. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    One thing I am particular of is:
    The El Chucacabra.

    Quite literally what I said was the the goat-blood drinker. (Double "the" is not an error, more of a translation error)

    It is one of the few variable cryptid creatures
    that many could actually believe.

    Some say it was a government experiment,
    some say it is an alien life form.
    More logically,
    it is one of the very many creatures of nature
    we know little about.

    Heck, we more about the dark side
    of the moon than our own ocean.
    What does that tell you, eh?
     
  7. Wisdom Form Guy Hollow Bastion Committee

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    I do not believe in Werewolves.When I was younger,I thought they were real,but now I know that it is a myth.
     
  8. BaseSebastian Kingdom Keeper

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    You know for certain?
    Good for you.

    Yet, it is also quite possible for Werewolves as well to exist.

    Very few cryptid creatures are just
    stories made to scare.

    Take the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_Devil Jersey Devil for instance.
    It was spotted on a wide scale basis,
    and yet,
    it has such a odd appearence that one would describe: alien.
     
  9. Aura Goddess

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    I think El Chucacabra was "spotted" in Peru,I believe they said it was.But I think that this is a myth.Some people said it had like a human type body.While others said it looked like an alien life form.And so on.I do find it strange that the animal's blood that it drank,was completely suck out of its body.But still I don't think that El Chucacabra is real.When I was little I thought it was real.But as I got older I figured that its just a myth.
     
  10. Jayn

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    Well, a lot of people say that these things are real but made to seem unreal in an attempt to keep others from freaking out, or from being able to defend themselves. I dont really believe it because there aren't a lot of reports on that kind of stuff. =/
     
  11. Inasuma "pumpkin"

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    Vampire's. no. Werewolves, no. Undead, definitely not.

    Fictitious creatures are not to be taken literally, imo. I suppose the idea of the undead could only have come about from a long time ago when people got sick, were thought to be dead one minute, then the next were getting up in deep amounts of pain for help. The hollywood "zombies" and "undead" are far different, and have been shown to us as we grew up, and are far more fictitious than anything of the sort.

    I just don't see how biology could take such sharp turns and create vampires, people who can morph into bats...? One has to raise the question in terms of what is suspect and what is not when it comes down to this because they were created out of story and myth, not reality, imo. lol
     
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    I don't really believe in Werewolves..they DO creap me out though when I see them in a show or something? but believe not really.
     
  13. Arc Kingdom Keeper

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    I make it a personal choice to not dicount anything thats not proven to be fake. Who knows....maybe at some point in time these creatures have/will exist.

    I know there IS a skin disorder that makes one EXTREMLY sensitive to light, and the blood thirst could be some sort of deficency....and there are people with that hair growth disorder...they look kinda werewolf-like....
     
  14. Wisdom Form Guy Hollow Bastion Committee

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    You said what I meant to say.

    -Werewolves are creatures that are people,only they act like a wolf,which definitly not true.

    -Vampires are beings that want to suck your blood,which is quite dumb.

    -The undead is like a zombie,which never did exist.

    So that is my full theory.:)
     
  15. Repliku Chaser

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    I don't think vampires or werewolves exist since we really have no proof to show for it. Of course, if we did, people would panic and act all sorts of stupid probably.

    Vampires are very romanticized now and the current view of vampires I pretty much dismiss outright. But the oldest legends of them had them looking much uglier, kind of like the walking dead zombies that are in movies now, like Resident Evil or something. There are signs archaeologically that even neanderthals over 40k years ago buried their dead and tied them up to possibly prevent them from 'getting up'. One of the reasons I think people fear the dead rising is that bodies after they die, if a person presses on the abdomen/chest of one, the body will exhale the last breath which can sound like a moan. I learned this in forensics class and it was pretty weird. Also the other reason is like Darkwatch said...that sometimes people assumed someone was dead and he/she wasn't. There are also people that have injuries where they are 'going to die' but still are moving and such and just not expiring when some others figure they should and it's horrible to watch. So vampires and zombies seem pretty explainable to me, until I see something to show otherwise.

    Werewolves aren't really the only 'shape-shifter creatures out there. In legends there are many assorted kinds such as were tigers, were bears, were jaguars, were hyenas, were coyotes, and the list can go on for some time. I do ponder that people feel connected to nature and relate to some sort of animal because it 'relates' to them most. I don't think people really change into animals though and vice-versa. If I see it, I'd believe it but for now I think it's mainly just people reaching out to their wild side, choosing an animal to say they are most like and feeling the bond with nature sort of thing. I know quite a few people like this. I also know a couple people that think they are lycanthropes but they are stuck so they can't fully change for some reason.

    There are quite a few other creatures that no one can ever seem to record or capture clearly which aren't part of being connected to humans, like the chucacabra, yeti, bigfoot, etc that I just leave to mystery because no one can seem to prove they do exist or don't exist fully. We get some video but it is -always- super blurry so until I actually have more proof, some signs, dna, a body etc, I just am not putting too much faith in it, but in some cases I'm not really ready to totally write them off either and just leave it open as I don't know.
     
  16. Catch the Rain As the world falls down ♥

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    Whilst I do not believe in the way the media portrays them today, I don't think we can discount them fully.

    Darky, whilst I agree that fiction is fiction, even fiction (generally speaking) has a trace of truth at it's base.

    There are species of wolf that are giant xD they could have been taken for werewolves due to their difference to other wolves, there is also a genetic disorder that causes people to have an increased amount of body hair which can result in them looking like some form of human/wolf hybrid.

    Vampires, well as Neku said, there is a disorder which causes people to be sensitive to light. History actually does discuss people who drank blood because it was believed to have healing powers. Allegedly if you drank the blood of the young then you got their youth. There is also evidence to suggest that known "vampires" such as Vlad the Impaler (aka Dracula) actually did exist. True they may not have been vampires in the modern sense of the word, but at the time the events were taking place I can imagine such things would seem pretty damn inhuman.

    So do they exist? Not in the modern sense of the word, but I do think that they exist on some level.

    There are many things we cannot explain, I personally don't want to discount anything.

    edit: If I was a vampire or something I would hardly wander around going HAI GUYS LOOK AT ME
     
  17. Korra my other car is a polar bear dog

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    Let's see...myth, myth, myth.

    The legend of Count Dracula was based off a real prince, Vlad Dracula, whose bloodthirsty entertainment was impaling people on spikes. He was Transylvanian, and killed around 20,000 to 40,000 people that way.
    And bats are associated with vampires because

    Werewolves? As much as I'd love to believe that werewolves exist, the fact that the full moon turns a human into an anthro wolf is extremely farfetched.
    According to a Russian belief, a child born on December 24th becomes a werewolf.
    If that's your birthday, let us know if you're a werewolf, okay?

    Undead. Shoot 'im in the head. =\
    Undead includes vampires, but apparently a custom in Haiti (Voodoo) involved using pufferfish poison to cause brain damage, basically making a slave. But there's no physical proof of this.
     
  18. Repliku Chaser

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    Yeah as you are saying there have been historic real people who did imbibe blood or even bathe in it. Vlad Tepes Dracul was a real figure but he didn't seem to take on the features of a vampire really. He was just a really bloodthirsty guy who had a super craving to impale people on pikes and ruled with an iron fist. Elizabeth Bathory is another one who helped propel the vampire legend in modern times because she would bathe in the blood of young women. Ironically she was found to have relations to Vlad the Impaler and the Bathorys were involved in things pertaining to him. Both enjoyed the suffering of others purely for the sake of it. I don't believe they were vampires though and they are kind of what propelled the modern day view of vampires today. Blood has often been seen as a spiritually powerful substance in many traditions and the occult and there are many rituals surrounding the use of it.
     
  19. Advent 【DRAGON BALLSY】

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    Keep in mind that while Christians believe most of the Bible to be truth, a lot of it is just a metaphor for the way God believes Christians should live, David's story in this case being to be strong and brave enough to stand for your beliefs/the ones you love. The dragon part was most likely an exaggeration from the men who recorded the Bible to either spice up the story or to make David's feat that much more amazing.

    As for me, I'm pretty skeptical about this sort of thing.

    So you don't believe in any country you haven't been to, any person you haven't met, or any sight you haven't seen?

    Ok, a bit of an exaggeration, but my point is that despite the fact that I just argued against the existance of these "enigmas", I don't think you should just say something is fake because you haven't seen it. The Giant Squid used to be a myth, but now we have photos of one.
     
  20. Kaihedgie Gummi Ship Junkie

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    That ain't whut I meant. I dun't believe in anything that hasn't been proven as actually existing. XP