Twilight Series [General Discussion Thread]

I would of liked it better in third person and if it stopped on Twilight.

Twilight was a good book and the ending there would of been perfect, make the reader create or imagine what happened after. .or at least in my opinion.

But it was okay for random summer reading.

 

Strangely, the thing that bothered me most about Twilight was that alcohol wasn't mentioned once in any form, not even in the passing. If the majority of the characters are 17-18 years old, it would seem logical for them to at least try beer or some other alcoholic beverage at some point. Sure, it's a small town, but that never stopped kids considerably younger than that from drinking in my hometown.

I do have to say that self-inserts aren't always a bad thing, especially if the author is looking for realism, and doesn't give the character unnecessary traits. Practically every character in one of my favorite books was modeled after a person the author knew, and some of the most heroic actions performed in real life actually had to be toned down, so that the book wouldn't be called unrealistic.
And Stephen King did an amazing job at inserting himself in to the Dark Tower-series.

And I agree with lilbueno about Bella. I liked her a lot in the beginning of the first book, but she just got really annoying about half-way in to the book, and very close to unbearable for the last hundred pages or so, when James came to the picture.​

 

Twilight would be best if.......... Well, it didn't exist.

 

I'm not a twihard anymore, so now I can judge better on different types of books. Stephenie Meyer, ok, she's sold over 40 million copies of Twilight and yes that's great, she's a great writer and I loved reading her books. Not just because its dumbed down, but because she knows how to write a good story, leaving out the vampire & werewolf bullshi-.

On the other hand, there is of course Eve Brondsningham, I've never read her books. From the section of one of her books you've put in the thread, I'm more than likely to enjoy her books. I like the long descriptions of what the characters are thinking, feeling or their actions. Although, there might be some things that may bore me to death, and I'll eventually stop reading the book.

And then you have the audience and what everybody's tastes are in books. It depends on what you like best. I can't really say much, but I think Stephenie Meyer is my favourite out of the two.

 

To tell you the thruth. I laughed really hard...that was a really neat trick.

But...the only comparison you can give here is the thing each one tries to portray. Twilight was clearly outmatched in style and ability presented. But one thing still stands, the audience. You can't say the second paragraph was as easy to understand as the first one, even when it was more decorated and lavishly presented. Each can target a set amount of audience. Take me for example, I would certainly choose the second one; I prefer things that allow me to grow, but sometimes I prefer something simple and easy; that's what twilight does, attack the biggest audience, and if you ask me...that's actually the easiest way to make money.

As it stands Stephanie meyer may not be the best writer, but the effect caused by the twilight phenomenon was clearly a very smooth move on her part, even when she might not have planned it so.

 

I've never read any of Eve's books, but I've read similar styles. It really depends on circumstances with me. If it's a rainy day and I have nothing to do, I'll read Eve's style because,though it takes a bit longer to interpret, if you have the time, it doesn't matter. But then again, Stephanie's style is better if your reading on the go or in short intervals. Like say you take a book to school; you only get a few minutes at a time to read and don't have the time or brainpower to really read it. If it was Eve's style, you'd just get confused, but with Stephanie's, it's so simplified, it gives you an ease for your brain.

So in short, Eve style for long, stay at home days, and Stephanie for school and travel.​

 

I like both styles but at the same time I can see why Twilight was so popular with the target audience. If you want your book to sell to middle school/ early high school girls then you are going to make your writing more simple then you would for a college student novel. The simpler style made the books easier to read and you could easily read each one in a day or so.

I've read all four books and yes I did enjoy them but at the same time I'm not going to say that it is the best piece of literature ever written. I liked it as a one time read and that was it. But then again Gothic style writing isn't my cup of tea, give me a strong female character over the original mary sue (Gothic heroine) any day.

 

The article is no longer up but I'm going to assume that Stephen didn't like it.

 

From what I've heard from my friends, Stephen King is a great writer. So for him to be saying that Twilight isn't that great is saying something. I personally like the way Stephenie Meyer wrote her Twilight Saga, but I hate the way the Twihards obsess over it [that's why i gave it up]. They both have different styles of writting, and that's awesome.

I should really get around to reading Stephen King's books if you guys say that they're so great xD.

 

YES. Do it. Easily one of the best writers of this century and the past century.

 

Twilight is stupid and anyone who says different is a teenage girl that is in love with Edward. Stephen Kings pretty cool and people to listen to him. He's a professional.

 

I found myself agreeing with everything King said. I really just do not like Twilight and the only ones around me who seem to hardly read books anyway unless they are a fad. Harry Potter books were wrote with more depth to them than I feel Twilight books are. I suppose some people like the writing style as it's easy to get and she's colored up the characters, but I can't get into it and I doubt I'll get over the 'vampires glitter' stuff anytime soon. What a curse.. you in the sun.. glitter. Edward and his emo pals sure have a hard life. Even the 'bad' vampire is boring to me, but then again, I realize some people aren't into the actual more scary aspect of vampires and this is just a drama in the end. Still though, King's words were pretty much echoing my own thoughts.

 

Exactly, I mean some people have said to me:

"You like Harry Potter, well you'll love Twilight !!!!11one!!11"

But it's just not like that. Rowling's writing is far supirior to Meyers and that's mainly due to the fact that Rowling, usually, didn't deviate from standard fact unlike Meyer's debauchery of Vampire Mythology.

 

Sure is a lot of stereotyping and narrowmindedness in this thread.

 

I hate this post.

I was freakin' 14 when I read the Twilight series, I wouldnt want a sex life at that age, and my social life is decent. Please don't label people like that D:

There are many authors who give different attributes to vampires that arent traditional. Meyer's writing is a little plain but she's done well. I've read books with much more extensive writing than the Twilight series, but that isn't for everyone.

 

Repliku said it all for me. Meyer pretty much made a Diet Vampires book for the more mainstream audience, but a writer should make their story much deeper than that, as Stephen King makes his stories to be. The two are on completely different levels of talent, and I hope that Meyer won't be stuck with Twilight as her most famous series. Maybe she'll get better and write a book worth all of the attention Twilight's gotten.

Constructive criticism ftw?

 

Stephen King > Meyers

Twilight is just a book that has been out for awhile that suddenly got good rep.Stephen King is a fantasic writer that has been famous and has more experience than Meyers has.

There is a difference between classic and "in"

Give it a few years,the Twilight fad will eventually die out.
The Harry Potter fad slowly got better.They aren't mass producing plastic dolls like crazy now are they?

 

Well...since this was bumped...I have something else to say in this matter. Your little pen name? It's fizzled with almost borderline purple prose. What I mean is....Unless Catherine looks like the bride of frankenstein, this sounds melodramatic...but it only borders slightly on that, so that is not to say a good number of people wouldn't read that...unless of course the writing only gets drenched on and on by constant overuse of lavishly crafted (amuzing to some point) thread of words that almost borderline on melodrama(unless of course, as stated before....she truly Is a freak, and not some teenager with issues)

Meanwhile...The twilight paragraph is in first person..."Eve's" was in third person...clearly, unless bella was a poetic little melodrama queen(which she was, except without the poetic portion) She wouldn't ever amount to anything more than the imitation of the mind of a teenager created by Stephanie Meyer. Her writing even so....feels so toned down...it's almost as if a kid wrote it. That alone shows how much she underestimated the intelligence of teenagers.

In conclusion...Eve's(Styx's) is better, but at the same time fails to deliver due to the exhausting amount of lavish prose woven into every single sentence(sounds nice, but ain't so nice once you read too much), and twilight fails due to it being writen by someone who could have done a better job.

Books are supposed to maintain a nice pace for the reader and maybe even go into chunks of prose and cleverness once in a while, but at others raw emotion is key...and showing the picture..not telling it(like meyer did in that paragraph)

I believe a good writer(instead of trying to be better than Meyer or any other writer)should work their own little scale...taking the good from what they read and apply it, until they transform it into something their own. Most books don't need to impress the top english students, sometimes it's fine just pleasing the people who actually read the books for enjoyment

Now...My decision would go with Eve's book , because it promises to be much more...but in the end I can only hope to read 1 page atleast 3 times to fully understand, and hold an theasaurus with me...which could potentially break my reading concentration. call me slow or whatever, but that is what I will stand by. I'm not the smartest person in the world, and much less have a dictionary stuck in my brain to know all the words. I certainly would not enjoy breaking away from a promising book because it is heavy laden with purple prose.

That is my honest and true opinion. I was reluctant to say it, but I remembered you said something about wanting to better yourself...and me holding back on my honesty wasn't doing you any justice. I'm sorry Styx.

 

Interesting question. I was contemplating to leave that up to the reader. Since Cross is heavily dependent of metaphors, I figured I might just as well make Catherine (and later a second protagonist) metaphors, as in "exaggerated" forms, of youngsters with issues. They go through the same inner conflicts and think about the same problems, but they feel it more intensely and hold other opinions in such matters than normal teenagers.
She's not fully sane, I can at least say that.

Yes, I'm in a pickle about this myself. Truth be told, things don't get any better in the newer paragaphs I wrote. I didn't wrote it for any kind of reader though, I too had my target, in this case readers who enjoy heavier lecture.
It's not meant to be enjoyed as much as it is meant to provoke thought (and emotion). Think of it as an incredibly long hermetical poem. Some people actually do like reading those...I hope. I know I do.

 

What I like about books: They give you pictures of the story in your mind and let you take you imagination a bit further.
Stephanie Meyers isn't really a great writer so,I don't like Twilight.
She doesn't really let you imagine anything,that's why it's such an easy book to read because there is not thought behind the text or into reading the text.
It's pretty much right in front of you.
Therefor,teenagers read it.
Because most teenagers:
a.Don't like to read.
b.Want everything to be easy and set up for them.
c.They don't put much thought into anything.