To remember 9/11 today...

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    -Innocent people die every day too. Because they didn't have the misfortune to die in a terrorist attack (which had a relatively low death-toll in the long run), they get brushed off as not being important?
    -Unexpected shock is a big thing, but it's something (the shock) that should be gotten over in a couple of years. I didn't think that morning "Terrorists will kill six thousand people in New York today" but it wasn't a big impact on me. This comes back to the point about it not being close. It only matters this much to you because it was so close. I'm out here in New Zealand, so I class the attack on America the same way I classify the dictatorship in Zimbabwe. Not close to me, it happened in another country.
    -Oh really? When was the last time you took a moment to think about the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagisaki? Innocent people died then, including school children. Far more people died in one place at one time then, yet it didn't even come to mind when you made that remark.
    -I didn't see a teacher give a true damn about someone else's life. I woke up one morning and it appeared in the newspaper. What you're experiencing is the loss that other countries feel when a tragedy hits. This time it was your country that got hit.
    -I'm not close friends with anyone who lost someone in 9/11, and very few of my friends are religious. However I can respect that people lost their friends and family in 9/11, and I don't begrudge them their mourning, but I don't get the world to mourn when one of my relatives dies, so I don't think that the entire world should be particularly upset over 9/11. Give those who lost people emotional support, but no more than you would give anyone else who had a relative die. 9/11 does not make someone's death any more special than if they were murdered in a back ally or died from AIDS.
     
  2. Snow Princess King's Apprentice

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    this is pretty much my story too except i was in sixth grade at the time and i was terrified because my aunt and uncle worked six blocks from the towers in nyc. i was telling my boyfriend this today: it doesnt matter how many years have passed to people like us that were personally involved. end of story.
     
  3. childofturin Why?

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    I was in 8th grade, in a PE class, when they told us to turn on the radio. We were in time to hear the second tower fall.

    My aunt and cousin lived in NYC at the time, but I don't think it was anywhere near there.


    I think the whole reason we remember this is it was the first true, concerted attack on American soil in quite a while. I don't think there's really been a major enemy attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor. That's a long time for a country to forget what it's like.

    I kind of agree with P, that: true, we don't honor every victim around the world. I mean, most of us could care less about the (probably) hundreds of deaths terrorists caused in the Middle East daily before 9-11. But that's because it wasn't here. For over 2 generations, we Americans have lived a pretty blissful existence - no major wars, no invasions, no nothing, really. And now that one of the quasi-symbols of our nation was shattered, the faith of many Americans in our power was shaken, as well. I mean, many of us must have been thinking, "my god, if they can hit 2 massive skyscrapers, the Pentagon, and wherever the 4th plane was going (possibly the White House), then, they might be able to hit anywhere!!" And, as the saying goes, those who do not remember the past are doomed to repeat it".
     
  4. Johnny Bravo Chaser

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    I was pissed, my school didnt do ANYTHING in rememberance of 9/11, no half-staff flags, no flag salute, NOTHING. I was actually at home watching tv when this happened, I watched it live, it was crazy, I was so ticked that my school didnt do anything, oh well, I mean you think they would do at least something, it was one of the only times in history we have been attacked by foregian power, dontcha think its kinda important?
     
  5. reptar REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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    all we really did today was just taking a moment of silence.
    and the fire department by our school got this huge flag out
     
  6. kaseykockroach Hollow Bastion Committee

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    My school was the exact opposite, really. We did no work in any of my four classes...Just watched documentaries, watched clips, talked about it all day. Much to my suprise, not a single student made a remark or shouted conspiracy theories. I've never seen anyone at my school act so mature before. :S
     
  7. DemyxPlaysMySitar Twilight Town Denizen

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    Ugh, my school didn't do anything. When I said to my friends "It's been 8 years", they turned around and went "What?". When i replied 9/11, they were like "oh" and changed the subject.
    Just ugh. I think it deserves more respect. It may have been 8 years, but I don't think anyone'll forget it.
     
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    -That's not it at all. It's not that they're so called "unimportant". It's that society is pretty much desensitized to common deaths.


    The rest is simply personal on both our parts. There is no right or wrong, you and I aren't the same person with the same views living the same way and that's fine so that argument is pretty much pointless. I, personally am the type of person who will take three hours out of my day on 9/11, 8/6, 8/9, 12/7, so on to research and remember and reflect. You're judging me as if I'm the majority of Americans. I personally take the time out of my day to think about things like this and more as long as it's known to me, of course.

    So it'd be pointless to argue against the rest unless you'd like to attempt to tell me how I live my life. =P Same for if I tried to tell you differently about your own person opinions and outlooks on things.

    Edit: Again, I in no way expect the whole world to care about 9/11. But I do believe people should be respectful. About any death, any hard situation.
     
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    My school did a lot, half-staff, ceremony, everything.

    There are several trees planted on campus in memory of parents of students that lost their lives; as well as three trees to represent all that died in the planes.

    Personally...I just thought back about how different it is with the people I knew that are gone, how many people that almost went to the Towers or were on a flight, and miracles that they're still here.
    I also changed my signature for the day.

    It does sicken me when people make jokes, it's insensitive and incredibly obnoxious. :/
     
  10. Patsy Stone Мать Россия

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    To be honest I only remembered when I was in a bank and the calendar on the wall (one of those one page for every day ones) said 11 September. I thought it was wrong xD Then I checked my phone and was like oh =/

    I was at my aunt's funeral that day so I had more important things on my mind.
     
  11. Nuff' Said Banned

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    We should get at least 10 minutes of silence because this is a sad day in USA history

    is your school in America?

    Schools worry more about their student's grades than patriotism which is wrong because if I recall it's required for a moment of silence
     
  12. tSG1 Chaser

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    True, we shouldn't ignore where we come from, what we are made from, however there is a turning point where we musn't use this as a point for lingering in the past.

    Sometimes, it's better to let go.
     
  13. Kaiionel Hollow Bastion Committee

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    Whoever said "it happened a long time ago so it doesn't matter", that's ridiculous. First of all, it most certainly did not happen very long ago. Eight years is such a miniscule amount of time, even if it doesn't feel that way to us. Should we stop caring about those who died in Vietnam because it was a long time ago? What about Hiroshima? The Holocaust? The Civil War?

    Also, people are still affected by 9/11 to this day. First of all, there's the obvious one: the war. Then there are the people who died in the World Trade Center or because of it, people that are still missed by family members and loved ones. That was really insensitive of the people at your school. I wonder how they would feel about it if their parent or sibling or something died due to the events of 9/11.
     
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    And thus considers them unimportant in comparison to tragedies such as 9/11. It's a qualm I've got with society in general. We fuss over the large, but ignore all the numerous, small events. Then again, it's hardly practical to consider all deaths everyday, so thinking about most major instances of sudden death as you are doing is the next best thing.

    In that case, you're a more thoughtful person than me, and quite possibly the majority of the world.

    Attempting to tell you how you live your life? Well if it weren't getting late, I'd be tempted by the offer. ;)

    Fair enough. That seems reasonable.