No Thanks To block people entirely.

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  1. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    So... There is an ignore feature, which if I'm honest, doesn't really do much.

    I was wondering if we could implement a full block feature?
    It would be a sad day should it have to be used, but let's say I'm getting grief from a member. I've removed them from everything else, MSN facebook and whatever, but they cans till access my profile on KHV.

    I'm not gonna really want that am I?

    Now I'm not talking about making it so posts cannot be seen on either side, that would be stupid.
    But what I'm saying is, is it possible to block someone from viewing your profile. sending you VMs and PMs and such?

    I mean, say I know this member likes to snoop through my VMs that I have with people?
    I know people against this suggestion can say, oh just use PMs, but then I'd be using them for like every message ever.
    It might be a case that I don't mind if people can view my VMs, I just don't want this one person to view them and snoop around.

    Can we do such a thing?
    Ignore mode doesn't do that, (in fact, I just see Ignore mode as pointless as when I used it before, all it did was make it so their posts were hidden)
    I'm talking about making it so they really are BLOCKED from you.
    Just thought I'd throw this out there. I'm hoping it wouldn't have to be used, but I'd prefer it if we had the option should a need ever such arise.
     
  2. ♥♦♣♠Luxord♥♦♣♠ Chaser

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    I quite like that idea. As you said though it would be great if we didn't need to use it but having it as an option wouldn't hurt at all.
     
  3. C This silence is mine

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    You can limit VMs to being seen by only those you have added as friends. I think that's enough on that field. PMs need to stay in case of emergencies.
     
  4. Kayate King's Apprentice

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    Like Chris said,limit Vm's to friends if you want... But the restricts me Personally from making friends.
    Truthfully, a full block feature would put some People more peace at mind
     
  5. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    I have to agree with this.
    While limiting VMs is a temporary solution. A full block feature would be nicer (well... it's not nice, but you know.) and more ideal.
    I don't want to have to shut others out just because of one person after all.
     
  6. The Fuk? Dead

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    I think a block feature that made posts invisible, and not just "This post has been ignored" would be nice.
     
  7. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    That would be nice in most cases, but it can cause some problems having it exactly like that too.
    An example would the RP arena, if you've blocked someone who happens to be in the same RP, that could really make things difficult.

    But I have to agree, the idea of ignore mode is useless in most cases, also ignore mode means they can still see your posts.
    Not that that is the issue.
    I'm mainly just on about profile related things. So a full block would be nice. (maybe with some degree of control, like you can choose to not see their posts etc and block everything entirely, or just block them for profile things but still see posts for things like RPs, it could always work like for their posts it could be the same as ignore mode (which yeah is useless...) but say for me I still need to view their posts for an RP, I can at least choose what I view and still have them blocked in regards to the other things)

    So... as much as I hate this example.
    Similar to how facebook has it, they can't view anything about you or send you anything.
    But if they comment on your friends post (or post in a thread in this case), you can still see it.

    Or something like that.
    I still want to know simply if full profile blocking would be possible.
     
  8. Llave Superless Moderator

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    Having such a system implemented would prove for the better if such an event were to occur.

    I think what you are trying to get at Bushy, is a way that that said person cannot view your vms, and cannot send you a pm nor a vm, correct? However, you are still able to interact with them on the forums, they just don't have the ability to flame/spam/annoy you via messaging.

    I like this idea, but like you said, it is something i'd rather not exercise if i can. Yet it would give you reassurance in knowing you are truly blocked from that person's contacting you in any way.

    Having their posts invisible seems a little creepy to me... let's say they could vm you but you had it on invisible. (If such a thing is possible...) Sure you may not see it, but there is still a way for them to "get to you" so to speak. It's almost unnerving to think of something like that. So having a system in place where they can't see your vms, cannot contact you at all via pm or vm, but you can still see and interact with their posts on the forums sounds like a reasonable filter for blocking someone out.
     
  9. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    Yes! that is exactly what I'm getting at. XD
    It's good for privacy reasons and other things. As I said, say the person in question is someone I've blocked from MSN and facebook etc.
    But they can still hassle me on the forums. While I can report them to staff, things might not make sense to the staff unless they know my private business which I might/would not be comfortable with. In those cases, the staff might not be able to help me in that regard. And even if they aren't flaming me or spamming me, they still can see my buisness via the VMs on my page and such (this has happened before and has caused some major upset). Again, I know people can view PMs publicly, but it still isn't decent to root through people's convos like that either.

    For those reasons, and the very nice Sum up that you put above, I think it would give peace of mind to people on the to be able to implement a system like this.
    It would allow things to not get messy in a lot of situations too, just being able to cut things like that could end a lot of things prematurely and efficiently. Of course, I would view it as a last resort for members, but... some people might really feel driven to that extent.

    I understand what Chris said about an emergency thing via PM, but if you're not willing to talk to this person at all, why would you or they have need to message you about a PM anyway?
    They can just message someone else etc, I mean, what kind of emergency would need them to contact you in particular?
    And... without seeming harsh, if you aren't even talk to them and want to be left alone in peace, would you that emergency even be your problem?


    Personally, I am surprised this hasn't been bought up (well, I couldn't find anything like this having been bought up before) or in fact implemented before.
    As I said, ignore mode doesn't really do much (enough) at all, so I think this could be an ideal system for events just in case.


    The part I've bolded in the quote is what I view to be the absolute ideal anyway. It wouldn't disrupt forum activity, but still give peace of mind.
    I just hope such a thing is possible and would actually be considered to be implemented.
     
  10. Sanya Orussia’s 586th Fighter Regiment

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    I would suggest looking around www.vbulletin.org for a mod that supports your suggestion. The options given to us don't go beyond the already in use ignore feature.
     
  11. C This silence is mine

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    Guys, you can still talk to anyone you'd like, just add them as a friend. It's not like you really meet the people through VMs and only VMs, it's usually through posts, so if they want to talk to you then they'd add you as a friend and you'd accept. It's that easy.

    If you don't want to tell the staff about your situation then you can just ignore those people, it's not like the world is ending just because you're not responding to their VMs or posts or something. I've done this before when I didn't want to talk at people, it's suprisingly easy.

    This might just be my way of thinking, but if it's public then people have every right to read whatever it is. You know that it is completely in public, so you shouldn't write something you don't want certain people to read. I am completely fine with people looking through all my VM conversations if they want to and I am alright with people looking through my entire facebook profile as well, to use an example that people tend to find more "personal". It's public, they have acess to it, they should be allowed to read it. If it's something you don't want others to know then you should either PM it to them or talk to them on MSN or some similar.

    You never know, there's always something that might happen. Or it can just be that they're doing a project for all active members or something. Again, if you don't want to talk to them then don't. It's not like anyone is holding a knife to your throat forcing you to reply to them.

    KHV is not a social networking site. I don't think it would work quite as well to just cut off posts for others so that they're not able to see anything. It's a forum, you're willingly on a place with tons of people you have no idea who is, you shouldn't be allowed to just block off posts from certain people. At least that's what I think.

    It would be a very sad day for KHV if we were ever able to do something like this.
     
  12. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    Although, some people like to talk via VM first before adding as a friend.


    Yeah, people can ignore things. But it's not like they should have to if an option could be available for them.



    No I agree with that. Exactly what you said.
    However, it can still be utilised in other means. Said person you want to block might snoop through your VMs and then thin to be spiteful. "Hmm, he seems close to this person. I'm gonna stick my nose in."
    And this had happened to me before.
    I know there will be the argument of, 'Well, if you're close to them, you shouldn't have to worry.'
    But still, it's not fun to hear your friends and such have been drawn into things, as has happened in the past.


    True enough, but still, I feel an option to block could be a good thing. It's not like people HAVE to use it.



    I never said about cutting off posts, I was saying that I felt posts should still be viewable so it doesn't interrupt forum life, but the ability to block profiles and VMs etc would be nice.
    And yes, it would be a sad day, but none the less, these things may happen sometime.


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  13. C This silence is mine

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    My apologies, I misread Llava's post, I thought it said something along the lines of "It would be fair to not have others be able to see or interract with your posts. It's not quite as bad then. I'm still against it, but I'm too tired to argue now. Nap tiem.
     
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    Private messages and visitor messages can be set to contacts and staff only.

    Even if it's an emergency, staff will still be able to contact you via private messaging or visitor messaging, regardless of whether they're on your contacts list or not.
     
  15. Llave Superless Moderator

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    You mispelled it too XD!

    But will that also block someone from posting a vm to you? That's the only grey area i see in that...
     
  16. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    Yeah, but I don't want to end up losing contact from everyone (who's not on my friends list but may wish to talk to me or inform me of something) over one individual.
    Being able to choose who that one person is and make it so that they cannot view or contact would be a big help in that regard instead of making it so everyone else is isolated.
    (I've made a fair few friends on this site from some people just randomly VMing me a hello etc, I wouldn't want that to change, admittedly, I have it up right now as a temp solution but yeah.)

    Also... I have been searching that site for such a mod for a while now and am having no luck...
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  17. Misty gimme kiss

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    Unfortunately if there's nothing for it on vb.org there's really not much we can do.

    If you really are having problems with a member, though, and they are harassing you/your friends with information that they find on KH-Vids, notify the staff. Depending on the situation, there may be something we can do. That's what we're here for.

    That being said, as Chris brought up, KHV is not a social networking site. We have facilities for you to have conversations with other members, but if it's something you don't want to be public, take it to PM or IM. If a member is sending you rude VMs, then that is harassment and we punish for that; if you don't want to speak to someone, and adding them to your ignore list is not an option, simply do what you can to avoid them. Sometimes we have to co-exist with people we don't get along with personally.
     
  18. Bushy "Don't think. Imagine!"

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    Very well,

    After a talk with a few people.
    I realised blocking wouldn't work anyway.

    The person if they couldn't view your profile could just log out and then view it.
    Anyway, this may as well be locked. XD
    Sorry to waste people's time.
     
  19. Chevalier Crystal Princess

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    Well, sure thing. I'd just like to add that if there's any case of harassment on KHV, we can look into it and act accordingly. We have rules that are supposed to protect the members.

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