Kingdom Hearts II Theory about Organization XIII

Wait a friggin' minute. If that was the case then why was Inexistant World a part of it? Or was it a different place altogether?

.......Damn it Nomura you love confusing us don't you?
Saw it, It's Kingdom Hearts. If that's the point then we can confirm that those who make Fake Kingdom Hearts have the ability to create all which resides inside of it.

Who gives a hell, it's adding to the theory ;D

 

alright,here's another theory.TWTNW is a nobody world correct.what if it's heart was concealed from it.and the only way to un-conceal it was to destroy a large amount of heartless.and the giant heartmoon in the sky and the door that they went into,was the door to TWTNW's heart.

 

Ye same with theory because when everytime a Sora killed a Heartless is aided X more then the other Org (other then Saix) and from we now he like a perfect org because he was a copy and we dont know any of the org who they are a copy of....
SO i agree ​

 

That is a very possible theory but to bring up Evilman's theory.
Axel and Roxas talked on the station tower in FM+ hidden scene, Axel said Roxas had a heart while him and Namine don't(Probably wanted pity a bit xD) and at that time Sora was asleep.

Now, since the Organization was introduced in Re:CoM (KH1 didn't count because who it was stayed unknown, which was Xemnas) it's a high chance they were already collecting hearts from heartless.

^ Ignore the above theory. I read it wrong.
If the door was concealed from the number of heartless the fake Kingdom Hearts had; It was destroyed by Ansem so the door wouldn't be able to open/appear if that was the point.

Grammar please ._.

Who said Sora was a "Copy" my good sir? No one ever mentioned it. We know members from 1-6's original names and who they were. Read Ansem's Reports or look in some topics. We know Roxas is the Nobody of Sora already if you were trying to say that too.

 

i think the organization have got hearts but theyre sort of locked away from them, maybe they have been sealed by something (not sure)

 

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DAMMIT DIDNT SAY ANYTHING WRONG.

 

i don't know, i think that they have hearts but don't know about it.

 

FOR THE THEORY:
that's what he means by concealed.
When they became Nobodies their hearts were concealed from them but they still had them, so they had hearts without be aware of it.

AGAINST:
But the main and obvious flaw in this theory is this: They became Nobodies by becoming Heartless, and their Heartless have/are their hearts. So the Nobodies did not have hearts.
Unless when the Heartless became defeated, the heart returned to the Nobody in a concealed state? but who knows.
Sounds plausible.

MY THEORY:
Roxas could have a heart (in my theory its Ven's heart AND body) but something else i thought of was this: He and Sora existed at the same time, maybe they shared the same heart. Since Sora was asleep he had no use for it, so Roxas could have used it. I think that's more plausible than my Ven theory but it'd be a disappointment if it was that simple.

 

I think that would make things too complicated, even on Kingdom Hearts-standards...

And I also think that would kinda ruin the whole concept of Nobodies...​

*cough* Fixed... Sort of.
Dunno what you meant with the 'copy' thing, though.​

 

Sorry, but I must disagree.

As is Repliku's theory, perhaps their "Hearts" are like phantom limbs in reverse. Instead of feeling the motion but nothing happens, they do the action but nothing is actually felt, just an empty hollow space where emotions go. They appear to have emotions, but in reality have no feeling at all.

Another theory is like the one above, except the inverse phantom limbs are personas that can be taken on or off at will. That would explain how Demyx can go from the "Oh we do too have hearts!" phase to the "Silent, traitor!" phase in the blink of an eye. He switched personas. Of course as shown in Final Mix scenes, Xemnas considers a nobody acting as if they have a heart to be a foolish thing to do, and he does not indulge in such petty sports.

Axel, Roxas, Xion and Namine are a whole bag of worms that really shouldn't be opened right now. I have theories on them, but they are unrelated to this topic. For the purposes of clarity, can we ignore these individuals for the time being and focus on Mansex and his followers?

 

Thats a plausible theory as Demyx said before he was owned
"We do to have hearts don't be mad"
Hmmmmmmm the plot thickens.

 

well it IS possibel that they dont' have hearts. but there IS something that they DO have, maybe not a COMPLETE heart but maybe they didnt' lose all of their heart. it might not be a heart but it could be something, something that allows them to be a Nobody but in a human form with their memories intact.

 

The strength of the original person's heart. The stronger it was, the stronger the inverse phantom limbs would be. Some are so strong that the nobody retains human shape.

 

oooh that's a good thought too, i kinda like it.

 

As Saix sais, they remember how it was to have a heart.

 

and they pretend so much to have feelings it becomes secondhand to them like pseudoemotions

 

What I think is that since Namine and Roxas were both born from people who have a special trait it had an effect on them too. So therefore it resulted in Namine and Roxas having emotions and since Roxas had emotions it rubbed off on Axel a bit causing him to feel like he has a heart.

Also this explains why Namine has her ability to fiddle with peoples memories.

 

Their black coats protect them from the corruption

 

which is why Mickey and Riku wear the black cloaks

 

First off I would like to have this clip as a counter point

http://www.kh-vids.net/newplayer.php?id=cPOUZVxuCr8

I don't think it's possible to go through emotions as quickly as Demyx does at the beginning of this battle, and you will also notice that he does hesitate a few times in there as if he's thinking about how to present himself.

I would also like to point out (and this can be confirmed by just about any role player or fan-fic writer that has tried) making a character with absolutely no emotion is VERY hard. It is almost imposable to think of a person with no emotion.


Now on the other side of the coin there is evidence to say they do have hearts as well. Axel for example states the Sora makes him feel the same way as Roxas, and by his end he was cracking jokes despite knowing that there is no point in pretending. On top of that each member has a personality, Luxord is obviously a gambler but there wouldn't be anything to drive him to that role unless he liked it.


All in all I think it's plausible that some or all of them have hearts but I don't see enough evidence to really make a statement one way or the other.