The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 11.0

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Dec 14, 2014.

  1. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Also, to be honsest, the guy who can only be special summoned by tributing robin is weaker than robin. doesn't really make sense..
     
  2. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Both cards are too strong for random. The factors that you mentioned for Batman aren't problems in non-random.

    No custom equip series currently exists, although if it did that would be the ideal solution for Robin. Assuming no such series is created, what do you think of the change I proposed? Or perhaps making him only able to search equips that can only be equipped to warrior-type monsters?
     
  3. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    Both options give us enough room to breathe. One turn to set MST to destroy incoming Snach Steal is enough. And equips that can be equipped to Warrior-type would be perfect alternative solution, that make more sense than robin suddenly pulling out Ritual Weapon for whatever reason.

    I still feel like Batman is still to strong for non-random, but he is not on Robin level. Robin OP, definitely nerf, it beats my Beaver Warrior turbo. Well as long as Robin is hit I will be contented enough to accept Batman. Because scariest part about him is combination with current Robin. Too strong for non-random.[DOUBLEPOST=1424731456][/DOUBLEPOST]
    Is weaker? Stats of 1700/1500 against Robin of 1400/1300. And effect that prevents your opponent from activation of his S/T until the end of damage step, combined with Equip that you gain by current Robin. I don't really see how its weaker.
     
  4. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    This is bullshit. How is Nightwing any different than Pitchblack Warwolf? And so what if my deck has good OTK combos? Blackwings and Shaddolls etc. do too. As do many meta and non-meta decks...

    Am I not allowed to make a good deck archetype? One that would actually do well in the meta? Is that it?
     
  5. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Nightwing is fine.

    Question: What do you want to do with Robin? What kinds of things are you thinking of searching with him?
     
  6. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    1700/1500, sure it's stronger in terms of stats.. but Robin with only a 300 difference in atk and 200 difference in def searches any equip and can be normal summoned unlike what I assume to be its alternate form. Nightwing doesn't even stop monster effects that activate when destroyed by battle and whatnot.. and who would activate any traps during the battle phase against the attack of a 1700 atk beatstick unless they were about to lose anyway? Surely, that effect combined with its atk/def total cannot be compared with Robin's effects and stat total.
     
  7. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    But you don't lose the search. You SS robin, search, then upgrade the body. Best of both worlds.
     
  8. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Indeed Nightwing is fine. It's just that Robin equates to Pot of Greed in terms of the pluses, and you know why we limited that...
    Right now, Robin is splashable. He can be used in many equip decks. I just proposed the Only Search Archetype Equips thing so that he would both be unsplashable and makes more sense overall. Would Robin pull a megamorph from another world because he felt like it? I don't think something that random would ever happen in his world.[DOUBLEPOST=1424743008][/DOUBLEPOST]
    upgrading is a -1 and Robin was the one searching. Would you ban exodia because there were too many draw cards?
     
  9. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Nightwing is a weaker card than Robin. There is no doubt about that. But tributing Robin to summon Nightwing is also an upgrade. So doing that does make sense.

    Also, I would totally ban exodia in that situation.
     
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  10. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    hmm.. baning Exodia would make sense in that situation.. I was thinking like how we have it now. too many if left at all 3s, too few if all limited. Anyway, that was my original argument. Nightwing is indeed a weaker card than Robin.
     
  11. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah, my argument is that it does make sense, because Nightwing is stronger after the two hit the field.
     
  12. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Ah.
     
  13. SmokeBomb Moogle Assistant

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    I did some reprints to the cards that didn't get the nod (decided to post all of them, just in case):

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    My 'Star vs. The Forces of Evil' customs (I was generous and gave Marco Diaz some Defense Points):


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  14. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    Avengers ones:

    Ones that pass:
    >Black Widow
    >Hawkeye
    >Hulk

    Ones that don't pass due to having "can not" part instead of probably intended "cannot":
    >Iron Man
    >Thor

    Ones that don't pass due to having overpowered effect:
    >Captain Bullshit (aka. Captain America) - having both 300 ATK gain and protection cannot go together, also "can not".
    >Avengers Assemble - right now its Summon all except Black Widow OR Black Widow. Also you can only control one "Avengers Assemble", but card name is "Avenger Assemble!", what calls for name change.


    The Star vs. The Forces of Evil ones:

    Ones that pass:
    >Royal Magic Wand
    >Princess Star Butterfly

    Ones that don't pass due to confusing wording:
    >St. Olga blah blah blah something - Due to what I get all monsters that oppose this card loose 300 ATK. That don't mean all opponent monster, but for what I get monster that is placed in slot before St. Olga something OR ones that try to resist its effect.
    >Flying Princes Pony Head - Due to "including this card" and "for each LIGHT-Attribute monster". I would change it to for every LIGHT monster on the field, that still involves this card.
    >Dimensional Scissors - Due to "Banish the opponent's monster" instead of "banish that monster", unless you intended effect that when you destroy monster you can banish one other monster. If that is case then it goes one category bellow.

    Ones that don't pass due to having overpowered effect:
    >Marco Diaz - its (2000/500) monster that can be special summoned easily, and ability to easily make Star Butterfly (2400/1600) monster and him (2300/500) monster. Also it Special Summon monster that can search for another copy of him or Special Summon another copy of him, with leads to said combo. Also existence of RANK 4 Xyz monsters that require you to use 3 materials, that makes me feel like it can be more consistent than Satellarknight.
    >Star Butterfly - due to combo stated with previous monster.
     
  15. SmokeBomb Moogle Assistant

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    That's the beauty of having a card editor in Yu-Gi-Oh Card Maker. I can just edit what needs to be edited.
     
  16. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    It seems the only way Yakumo will accept customs is if they suck...

    And I don't get it, How would Robin be helpful with Exodia?
     
  17. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    If you had any knowledge of current game, you could see that I have reason to deny overpowered LVL 4 monsters that can be summoned for no cost. And along the way can possibly get over most of current meta decks. But you don not posses such knowledge, so I can say why you are so ignorant.
     
  18. SmokeBomb Moogle Assistant

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    Reprints for the cards that didn't make it (and a name change for one of my Avenger cards):


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    Reprinted 'Star vs. The Forces of Evil' customs:

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  19. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    @SmokeBomb I don't really recommend trying to make your customs acceptable by Yakumo. It's not worth your time. I was most likely not even gonna use my customs anyway. They were just for fun.
     
  20. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    If they were just for fun, you should add "This card cannot be used in duel" restriction (one that appears on every match winner since Victory Dragon), and I wouldn't have to even look at how unbalanced those cards are. In this case you are at guilty side.