The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 11.0

Why is it a bad thing if they can OTK though? Any deck can OTK.

 

Kuri- oh, right.. even they can OTK. Nvm.
I think it's just the level of easiness your deck can achieve an OTK at. haven't really look through them in depth yet, but I must say.. your latest Joker seems kind of silly. Please nerf. There have been many times I've went across cards that would be pretty ridiculous if used on the first turn of the duel and from the hand. Joker is just too abusable even with his effect limitations, the way he is now. This is why I shall give it my disapproval.

 

Exactly how is he abusable?

 

A lot of decks Can't OTK. A lot of strong decks even. At least, not without a lot of set up. I know my Madolche deck was strong, and the most damage it could do in a turn without setup was 2700, even if the opponent had no cards.

And Robin doesn't Just allow you to pull off easy OTKs. Remember, it ca also search Autonomous Action Unit, Premature Burial, and Snatch Steal, to name a few. It can even give you draw power through the searching of Wonder Wand or Break! Draw![DOUBLEPOST=1424568258][/DOUBLEPOST]

Why is temple of the kings banned?

 

imagine you can make any trap card turn into a quick-play spell card. Traps are traps for a reason.

 

They probably can. I'm just too lazy to look up how. But any deck can OTK. Even Crystal Beasts can.

Temple of The Kings lets you play Trap Cards from your hand an unlimited number of times per turn...My Joker card only lets you use one Trap from your hand per turn...That's a big difference...

 

CB are an OTK deck. I was actually remembering the wrong number. The best I could do without any setup is Activate field spell > normal summon Cruffsant (1500 base atk, +500 from field) use Cruff to bounce the field to gain 300 atk (now 1800) and then play the field again. That's one attack for 2300. My deck could not SS a single thing without setup. Some Madolche deck can certainly OTK. Mine could not. And yet, it was a strong deck.

 

There is that one spell card in anime, that allows you to play one trap from hand. It requires you to pay cost of one card from your hand, when your Joker does not. Its enough to say that something is wrong, when anime card is more balanced than your custom. There is also Bubble Illusion that requires you to use more cards than this card and is not repetitive effect that can happen every turn. Also there is Anime exclusive Rubble King that have the same effect that activates traps from your hand... but is 0/0 monster with activation requirement of having 30 cards in your graveyard. Joker you made is not only cheating towards cards that exist in game and are legal, but also towards Anime cards. And since you never said in what exact format you want them to be accepted, it gets no for every card that have similar effect and is more balanced.[DOUBLEPOST=1424608963][/DOUBLEPOST]

Orichalcos Tokens cannot OTK. But its still a deck. So I think that proves your argument invalid.

 

My point is even some of the very weakest decks in the game can OTK but they still aren't competitive. It would just be a rare occurrence but any deck archetype is capable of OTKing. But anyway regarding my customs I can see why you would disapprove them for random but there is no reason at all why they should not be accepted for non-random.

 

In some cases, certain traps would need to be banned from the non-random game if you want Joker to be legalized.

 

If card cannot be accepted in random, in most of cases it gives even more reasons to not accept it for non-random. Only exception would be card like "Seventh One", but even stronger. Plus Joker, Rabin and Buttman are still broke as hell.

 

Examples please?[DOUBLEPOST=1424635778][/DOUBLEPOST]

Never heard of Seventh one.

 

pot of greed>harley quinn>Joker>appropriate>dark world dealings>*hand 5*>dark world dealings>*hand 6*>Dark wold dealings>*hand 7*>hand destruction>*hand 8*>hand destruction>*hand 9*>hand destruction>*hand 10*>card destruction>*hand 11*.. if you don't use broww. if you use brow, your hand becomes 14. If you further go and use the beginning if the end, your hand becomes 16 and your opponent would may still only have 5 cards in their hand.
Seeing your deck is most likely DARK, you're probably going to be able to use The Beginning of The End anyway. We can count out the browws and you'd still have hand 13. Well, 12, with the new rule of whoever goes first skips their draw phase. Regardless, you can probably use two beginning of the ends seeing the amount of cards you dropped getting your hand that high.. Assuming you can use triple beginning of the end, you'd end up with a hand of 16 excluding broww. All you have to do after that is gryphon wing, set 5, and watch as your opponent tries to get over 5 face-downs and then next turn you still have 7 cards in hand. Note that you would have to drop 4 cards during your end phase if you just do the above, but you can easily find ways of doing whatever you want with 4 cards like burn your opponent or summon some more monsters. But yeah, the Joker allows one to fill literally every card slot on your side of the field and still have 7 cards left to burn next turn.[DOUBLEPOST=1424637977][/DOUBLEPOST]

 

Why gryphon wing when you could magic planter?

 

Oh, right.. There's that.[DOUBLEPOST=1424639229][/DOUBLEPOST]

Wait.. The Joker is also a level 4 with no summoning restrictions? Wow. That's even worse. You don't even need harley.

 

Remade The Joker again:

 

The chain material example stands.

 

*and before he goes to counter trap cards, because nobody given example involving them*

 

Why is Chain Material a big deal? That card seems pretty useless.

 

All fusion gate OTKs that abuse chain material... hmm probably that's why.