The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 11.0

Not going to chain until BP. Go ahead.

 

Then I'll go ahead and normal summon photon crusher too.

With these two monsters, I can overlay to Xyz summon Sarliege lord galaxion!

and I shall detach 2 Xyz material from him to summon Galaxy-eyes photon dragon from my deck in face-up attack position!


Since I have two light monsters on my field, I can special summon guardian of order from my hand.


Who I am going to overlay with Galaxy-eyes photon dragon to Xyz summon Number 107: Galaxy-eyes Tachyon Dragon!

*battle phase*
I detach one Xyz material from Galaxy-eyes tachyon dragon and and attack directly!
-5000
End.

*hand 4*
Field:

 

Draw Phase---
*hand 4*

Spoiler: hand

2x Desecrator
Dark Matter
Universal

standby phase---
main phase 1---
I activate Universal Magic. I discard one to search for a spell or trap.


Discarding:



Chain?

 

No chain. you may continue.

 

I search Summoning Ritual



Unfortunately, I realize that I don't actually have enough material to pull of my move. So I'll just end my turn.

end phase---
hand:3

Spoiler: hand

Summoning Ritual
Desecrator
Destroyer

Note: If I summon Destroyer with ritual, it can't attack this turn and Tachyon can negate and kill it on Brook's turn.

field:

 

I draw.
*hand 5*
*standby*
*main phase 1*
I normal summon Photon Crusher!

and move straight to the battle phase.
I detach the last material from Galaxy-eyes tachyon dragon which negates all effects on the field except itself.
I attack directly with Tachyon Stream!!
-3000

 

I activate my trap card: Denial of Hope!



Chain?

 

Tachyon Transmigration Force!!

If you control a "Galaxy-Eyes" monster: Negate the activations of your opponent's Spell Cards, Trap Cards, and monster effects that are in the same Chain as this card, and if you do, shuffle all of those negated cards on the field into the Deck. If you control a "Galaxy-Eyes Tachyon Dragon" monster, you can activate this card from your hand.



From the hand.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

I actually have a second Denial of Hope set.. But because of the activation window, I can't use it. GG.[DOUBLEPOST=1422940283][/DOUBLEPOST]Now Yakumo, please tell me how these cards are OP, when even run at 1/2 each they make the deck dead enough that it can't get monsters onto the field, into the grave, OR banished.

 

Before you show your deck recipe I cannot tell if its just case of bad deck building or just they suck that much. Anyway my point stays the same. They shouldn't exist in this form. Thing that maybe could save them is banlist, but we don't seem to be able to limit/semi-limit customs at the moment.[DOUBLEPOST=1422972388][/DOUBLEPOST]Also correct me if I'm wrong, but you designed cards in TCG, send them for approval in all possible formats and tested them in OCG?

 

As long as a card(s) is released by konami and has reached physical manifestation there is no difference between TCG and OCG. I really hope people can understand why this is so. And he said how many of his spells he was running (which is less than 3 copies, mind you). There is no need to banlist a set of cards where they make the deck dead when run at 3 each. That simply makes no sense. This leads us to the conclusion that they should be accepted under the idea that they aren't ban-worthy due to not being good run at 3 and not limited/semi limited worthy since Fred was running them at that amount and yet still got dead hands.

Personally though, I would like to as why you continue to argue a dead point when you have been left with nothing to use as arguments..

 

It was a quick build without staples, so I don't doubt that it could be made better.

Spoiler

3x DHD Vanguard
3x DHD Harbinger
3x DH Pathfinder Dragon
3x DHD Destroyer
3x DHD Dark Matter
3x DHD Desecrator
2x DHD Fortress
3x DHD Ultimate Assassin
3x DHD Summoning Ritual
2x DHD Unending Prophecy
2x DHD Sacrifice & Recovery
1x DHD Lost Soul Syphon
1x DHD Blitz Tactics
2x DHD Universal Magic
3x DHD Denial of Hope
3x DHD Day of Rest

However, the way to make it better would either be:
Run less of the spells that you claim are OP or
Run less monsters, which makes it harder to use the spells.

Personally, I think the answer is probably both. I just started pure archetype because I thought that would be the easiest place to use the spells. Something like the Malefic variant you suggested wouldn't be able to make much, if any, use of the spells.

 

No, please don't decrease the amount of DHD spells. That would just defeat the argument that DHD spells > Pot of Greed! We must not have that.

 

Wait, wait, wait, What the fuϲk? How the hell are you guys using customs in a Random Draw Duel? O.о Or even Japanese cards for that matter?

 

Brook and I set up a duel on DN, and he used a deck he had built on DN for the duel, so he could use all of its stuff. I used a very primitive program that I had written previously specifically for the purpose of allowing random draw with customs.

 

Ah I see.

 

Alternatively, if you're bilingual, you can buy Japanese cards and throw them into your English card deck because being one is just that badass.

 

This is also possible if you're not bilingual, as long as you know what the card does. Or at least can convince your opponent that it does what you say it does.

 

Well those things are all true yes.

@Yakumo I tried adding bullet holes for multiple effects but the maker wouldn't let me. So I guess I'll just have to make do with numbers.

 

Except for fact that usage of OCG cards in TCG until they are released in TCG is illegal. Whole different banlists, whole different numbers of possibility. Once card is released in OCG it won't be different in TCG. However until its released in TCG it won't have any impact on banlist. So there is difference.
BTW. if you really need to be shown difference: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_legality

There is point in limiting them, due to their very strong self recycling effects. Really, leaving them at 1 would make benefits of using them correctly that harder to use that it could be acceptable. But as they are not, they are still to strong to be accepted. Only thing that makes them so strong is their self recycling ability, that is too rewarding if utilized correctly. It either need limitation, or lack of it to be acceptable in game. Really it could work other ways just fine. Making self recycling effect more forceful, so it either forces you to use it, or abandon it forever. There are so many options to make them strong and Fred picked cheapest and strongest one at the same time.

Also did you saw his build? Its unable to utilize full power of his spells, making some of them more dead than Michael Jackson is.

Because I think they are bad. Bad build don't prove card inefficiency.

Really I will still stay with my point until effects of those spells will be changed or they will be tested within better build and proven to be too weak to even bother.

And I tried some builds that allow to abuse those effects. Maybe that's the case why I'm so against them, but I don't really care.