The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 11.0

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  1. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    As they don't seem to OP, I will hold on with accepting them until monsters are revealed. I already have some doubts on Shining Revive and Light Contract could use nerf and in-game grammar fix.
     
  2. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    What's wrong with Light Contract? It's the same as Mind Control. And Shining Revive is just a non-splashable version of Monster Reborn. If anything she just needs to add "You can only have 1 copy of "Shining Revive" in your deck" and "You can only have 1 copy of "Light Contract" in your deck" to the text. Since both the splashable versions of those cards are Limited in the real game.

    EDIT: Well technically Monster Reborn is Banned but anyway I'd say if she Limits those cards they're fine.

    DOUBLE EDIT: Shining Revive should probably be edited so you can only get monsters from your grave so it won't be so similar to Monster Reborn.
     
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  3. xxxLatiasxxx Destiny Islands Resident

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    No sir I have had this in my head for awhile now for shining revive and I'm not changing it to just my grave. However I will limit the copy to one if need be.
     
  4. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    First attribute it mentions. For the hell lot off time we write them like THIS. Second we don't know any monsters yet. I won't say it's fully broken yet, but they have potential. Third, she did not stated that she wants it to be for non-random only so anything that won't go in real game won't go here, unless with fair cost. And that goes to second, we don't know monsters yes, so we cannot tell if anything out of those cards is even remotely close to being acceptable. And forth Shining Revive have chance to be accepted, but only in non-random. Plus both it and Contract don't make any sense as for why they are supporting this archetype. They are very odd and cheap advantage for now.
     
  5. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Since Shining Revive banishes one of your monsters, I think it's fine as long as Lumina don't get bonuses from being banished. Since it's only able to banish a Lumina Beast the only real way to abuse it is with Contract. Although, looking over its card text again, it currently can't function as a card since it starts a new chain during resolution.. But assuming its text is meant to be "Target 1 "Lumina Beast" monster you control and 1 monster in either player's graveyard; Banish the first target, and if you do, Special Summon the second." it should be fine.

    Contract seems like a really bad card to me. Bad design, not low power. It's slightly stronger non-splashable Mind Control, so I would say fine if there was no card that could specifically abuse it, but when it's right alongside Shining Reborn, It becomes "If you control a "Lumina Beast" monster, target one monster your opponent controls; Banish it." while reborn becomes "If you control a "Lumina Beast" monster: Monster Reborn." Additionally, stealing a monster and making it one of yours feels like a DARK thing, not a LIGHT one. For that reason, pending monsters, I'm in favor of accepting all cards other than Contract, but not accepting Contract.
     
  6. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    I'm not against accepting them for now, but Shining Revive is card that I would only consider for non-random with this effect. Even if it banishes, being able to bring out any monster from graves is what made Monster Reborn banned in first place. And I don't get why it fits theme, and what theme there is. It's something that you would except for Fairy-type archetype, because angels and stuff. Contract probably would be the stuff of legends if allowed in state that it presents now. Tree Lights and Back to the Route seem like cheep rip-offs off already existing traps, and don't show any common theme, except for being now archetype exclusive.

    With all cases I suggest waiting for monsters before even starting to favor acceptance of those. It can be taken wrong way. There is too much variables right now to even accept Search for Light, because it might as well turn out to be ultra OP.
     
  7. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yeah, the only card that could be accepted without seeing monsters is The Shining Hope, since it's literally just Lumina Beast only Time Machine. Monster Reborn flip flops between Limited and Banned all the time, so I think that Monster Reborn with a cost should be fine. I have no idea what the theme is supposed to be. It will either become evident with the monsters or not.

    I can see why you would say that expressing an opinion on what would and wouldn't be accepted would be bad, since they're all dependent on the non-existent monsters, but I think giving that sort of indication is useful feedback for determining what kinds of effects are okay, so the potential good outweighs the potential bad.
     
  8. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    Yeah Shining Hope don't seem that bad. However they all seem out of place, we got two to revive, one to change control, one to destroy back row, one to recycle and one to bounce to the deck (aka. trap turned into spell - the cheapest one). The biggest trend between them is reviving/recycling, so that makes rest of them more than a little strange.

    Expressing opinion is not bad, what is bad is implying message like: "yeah I'm behind accepting them", before most concerning thing (monsters, or to be exact, their interactions with effects) are revealed. And that is exactly what I get from literal interpretation. I know you probably meant to give feedback that it seems like it's going in right direction, but it heavily implied it literal meaning. At least that's what I get from that.
     
  9. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I just double checked the wording I had used and it wasn't what I thought I had at all.. I guess not doing quite so well on low sleep as I had thought. Yeah, the wording I used was bad. I'll try to be more careful in the future.
     
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    I thought about it a bit.. And I'm not sure that I want to accept a series that has no theme. If there were a mechanical theme, I could forgive a lack of lore theme. If there was a solid lore theme, I could make suggestions for a mechanical theme. But a large number of cards that are only really related by the fact that they have the same two words in their names.. Seems a bit weak.
     
  12. xxxLatiasxxx Destiny Islands Resident

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    Well sorry to say but I've had these Lumina Beast cards in my head for about two months now and paid a lot of points on DA to get the copyrights to these guy's and I'm really happy with how they came out. Anyway just got another one done.


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  13. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    Can you get al the monsters next to each other in one post? Its super annoying to scroll trough the page just to see them.
     
  14. xxxLatiasxxx Destiny Islands Resident

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    I have them all together in a previous post scroll up lol. :)
     
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    I noticed recently, but its still annoying to scroll to look trough them. If you gonna leave them like that, at least include their effects in form of text.

    Anyway what I can tell for now:

    Ones that needs grammar fix:
    >Astral Wing
    >Salamander Slith
    >Seahorse Lillia
    >the Scurring Eyeball

    One that just cannot be accepted in non-random due to arena and stuff:
    >Flitter the Wisp

    One that is just 3OP5game:
    >Beast Kithi

    Ones I don't like:
    >Jaguar Veshiima
    >Topaz Hedghog
    >Sea Serpent Wooh

    (Some of them might belong to more than one category.)
     
  16. xxxLatiasxxx Destiny Islands Resident

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    Ah that's too bad because Lumina Beast Topaz Hedgehog I draw out myself and I paid over 70 dollars worth in points on DA to get the copyrights to these but I thank you for your assistants I'll see what I can do to fix these. :)
     
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    PSA: Star (Starseeker3 I believe) is on DN right now.
     
  18. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Can you say hi to him for me please? And also tell him that he needs to change the password to his email because a bot hacked it?
     
  19. Yakumo Moogle Assistant

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    So what if I tell you all... Pendulum Spell Cards.
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  20. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    So... How do you pendulum summon it?