The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 10.0

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "Well, if you don't die, how are you supposed to be reincarnated in another dimension?"
     
  2. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "Reincarnate? And who spoke about that?! Isn't there a way to teleport me back? Something probably sent me to this dimension in the first place, you know!"

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  3. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    ...I limited Stratos, Super Polymerization and Space Gift and people are STILL thinking that I'm biased?

    I don't even.............

    Did you guys not see where I already explained why Seal isn't broken and doesn't need to be hit? Because it has a cost and you can still use your facedowns after it's played...Why do you think Giant Trunade, Heavy Storm and Harpie's Feather Duster are all hit but Seal isn't in the real game?
     
  4. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Jaden. Seal doesn't need to be banned, you're right.. But it does exactly the same thing as looking at someone's hand, just on a smaller scale. Looking at someone's hand is super OP because it forces them to declare what cards they have. Once they've declared that, what they can actually do with those cards is very limited. Seal forces you to declare your face-downs early. Yes, you can still use them.. But you can also still use a card that was in your hand when your hand got looked at. Yes, you can make them all draw power.. But you can also do that with your hand when your hand gets looked at.

    The reason that Seal doesn't need a ban is because it's only useful when your opponent has face-downs: In other words, it's only useful when your opponent can stop it. Revealing the hand is OP because it can be done when your opponent can't do a thing about it.

    What Seal does do, however.. Is force you to either A) negate it, B) make your traps all waboku and fifty jars of greed, or C) Make your face-downs worthless (as it did with Abby). This is the same set of options you are offered when your opponent plays a card like Heavy Storm, or Harpies Feather Duster. That is why I believe that Seal should be limited, but not banned, like a Harpie's Feather Duster.
     
  5. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Oh my Celestia do I really need to say this? I shouldn't have to but I will...

    Revealing your opponent's hand is far more Oped. Because once you know what your opponent has in their hand not only does it ruin their plans and their strategy but you also can set facedowns to counter whatever is in their hand next turn. Why do you think The Forceful Sentry, Confiscation and Trap Dustshoot etc. are banned in the real game?
     
  6. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "^ This. And EXCUSE ME for not thinking about Trunade in advantage... I did make my facedowns to discourage mass destruction so I guess you had no option...

    This is the problem of having to be lightning fast with the answers. I can't think straight of what to do! Dang time constrictions!"

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    3 words: Giant. FREAKING. Trunade
     
  7. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Cards like Trap Dustshoot, The Forceful Sentry, Confiscation, ect. are actually banned because they let you take away your opponent's most useful card.

    Now then, I'm going to use bold for this, since you seem to be missing my points

    Seal is similar to viewing the hand in that it forces the opponent to declare their cards before using them

    Seal is nowhere near as OP as viewing the hand because it can only be used when your opponent has face-downs, meaning that unlike viewing the hand it can be countered.

    That said, Seal is similar in power to Harpies' Feather Duster in that it forces your opponent to either spend a card to negate it, make their face-downs draw power and waboku, or waste them.

    As such, Seal should be limited like Harpies' Feather Duster, not banned like hand viewing.
     
  8. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    This, and the fact that, unlike Feather Duster/Heavy Storm, you can't use cards like Hero Medal/Kozaky's Self-Destruction Button/Dark Coffin to deal with it.

    AND combining it with Giant Trunade is basically a few moves away from an 2TK.
    Not to mention that that would mean that you had seen your opponents' hand, which is nominally frowned upon.
     
  9. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    If only I could find the link to that article where I read that those cards were banned because they reveal your opponent's plans and ruin their strategy...

    I think Seal is one of the cards that sort of helps balance The Duel Arena though considering what a nuisance facedowns can be in non-random. But at the very least I suppose it should be Limited.
     
  10. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Yup, exactly that. It's a two part thing. First, they let you view your opponent's hand to see what they're planning, then they let you take out the card that's most important to executing those plans, and all that for the low cost of 1k LP. The information alone isn't enough to get something hit, as can be seen with The Eye of Truth and similar cards. Of course, it's different in the arena.[DOUBLEPOST=1417535680][/DOUBLEPOST]
    OOC: Not sure how I missed this post.. I guess it was hiding from me or something.

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    "Well, the thing is, each dimension has its own life force. That life force is given to each living thing born into that dimension, and is gradually released back into the dimension during that creature's life. Direct travel moves life force from one dimension to another, which can cause problems over long periods of time. Additionally, there are very few creatures that have the power to fluidly travel between dimensions. For humans, as with most other things, to pass between dimensions one must tear a hole in the fabric of space and time. Naturally, this will quickly be repaired, but that comes at the cost of removing more life energy from both dimensions. To combat these problems, we have developed a method known as Reincarnate Transit. This technique takes advantage of the unique structure of life energy that makes up a 'soul'. By fluidly analyzing a given person's specific pattern while allowing it to unravel we can re-

    Ah, I'm going into the sales pitch. I guess you don't really need to know all of that. Basically, unless you're a god, direct travel will contribute to the destruction of the world, while my method will not."
     
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  11. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "Oh, my Arceuuuuuus!!!! My heaaaaaaaaaaaaad!!!

    Tha-that is all too complicated!

    I think it really can't be that difficult! I mean, can't I just find someone with the power of teleport?!"

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  12. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "According to the Theory of Relative Spacial Differentiation, any point.. well, basically, teleporting moves you from one point to another within a set space. Each dimension has its own set of space, and teleportation can't move you from one set to another. So to teleport from one dimension to another you need to tear a hole in space and time, which is bad."
     
  13. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "Then, how do you explain me being here, Mr. Smarty Pants?! Do you have an absurdly and awfully complicated explanation for that, huh, huh?!"

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  14. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    A voice was heard coming from Zack's bracelet.
    "Well, if you were listening, Zack has already explained that. Someone or something has torn a hole in space time to transport you here."
     
  15. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "The heck?! Who- What is that?!

    We-we-well, if something has brought me here by doing that, why there can't be someone else can send me back?! What is the big deal anyways?! Nothing bad has happened to this stupid dimension!"

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  16. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    "There may well be someone else who could send you back, but that would be boring, so I doubt anyone would."
    "Who would put an end to this amount of entertainment?"
     
  17. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "And who cares about your entertainment?! Idiot!"

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  18. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    "in your case, this isn't specifically my entertainment. Although This is pretty amusing.. I was not the one who sent you here."
     
  19. Toon-Girl-Abby Merlin's Housekeeper

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    "And you and the nerd cannot figure out a way to send me back?"

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  20. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    "Oh, but we do have a way to send you back."