The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 10.0

You made it blatantly obvious that you didn't care about me after I thought you were my friend...And you think I'm not supposed to get upset about that? Because after thinking that you were my friend you proved to me that you really weren't...That would upset anybody...

 

Ahh... Jaden and his lovely assumptions... That's so adorable~!

Well I never really was your friend for your knowledge. In Poland we have word for this kind of relationship I share with everyone here. It's called 'znajomy' with translates to friend, but have different meaning, so I guess you are not completely wrong. 'Znajomy' is somebody you know. You either tolerate or like that person, but you both still barely know each other. When 'przyjaciel', with literately translates into 'friend' is kind of relationship when you both like and know each other. As we all here really barely know each other, so we all fall to 'znajomy' category.

And you know what. I don't really care about your situation any more. I did cared about it, but that's all past. If you are here or not, it doesn't matter to me right now. Only thing you have proven to me so far is fact that you only think about yourself and how people react to what is happening to you, because that's what are you doing right now.

But you are completely right about one thing. Now I can only think of you as a jerk.

Edit: And if you didn't noticed yet, yes I'm angry at you. You can fell proud, because not everybody can make me angry.

 

Look, Guys, I know that I've been a real creep sometimes in the past and I don't blame you if you're still mad at me for that...But I want you to know that I feel terrible about it...And I've been trying hard to make amends for it...I don't know why it hasn't been showing...

@SirFred131 I especially want to apologize to you from the bottom of my heart...You're a great guy...So wise and encouraging to everyone...And when I first met you I took that for granted...And for that I am deeply sorry...My regrets cannot be expressed with words...[DOUBLEPOST=1413767484][/DOUBLEPOST]

How could I not assume this?

I see.

I just want to know that I have true friends and that people care about me. That's what anybody would want. How would you feel if one day in real life you told all the people that you thought were your friends you were moving and that you would never see them again and then almost all of them acted completely nonchalant about it? Well that's what this is like...

 

Jay.. I've already posted about why I acted the way that I acted, and I believe Yakumo was operating in a similar fashion. If you would like to read that, here you go. Most specifically, the last paragraph.

Simply talking about that again would be redundant, so what I'm going to do instead is try to explain why someone might act in the way Yakumo is acting now, assuming that person cares about you.

Imagine that some person did care about you, and you left. For reasons described in the post I linked to, said person did not act in as emotional a way as you would expect. Then you come back. Naturally, when that person sees you've come back they may feel a little happy. But then they read the first thing you say upon coming back and it says 'Person, you are a soulless robot who doesn't care about me! Good thing I have real friends like this other person who made a more emotional display.' Naturally the person who acted less emotionally when you left will be upset. In fact, they will be more upset the more they care about you. After all if they don't care about you at all, they don't care what you say about them. If they care about you a lot, on the other hand, your words will hurt them a lot. Not only have you attacked that person's character, but you have done so on grounds that are increasingly false the more they do care about you. If said person felt that they were guilty, they would likely feel a need to defend themself. However, if they felt that they had done nothing wrong they would likely feel a sense of righteous indignation that could well manifest itself in a counter attack of some sort. One method of such a counter attack would be to mock the idea by accepting it and taking it to extremes in an attempt to show how off base it was, or otherwise respond to it with sarcasm.

Another form of counter attack would be the one I am using, which is to simply explain things at length in the hopes that by making things more clear any perceived disrespect to you would be shown not to have originated out of any ill intent, or indeed to have originated from the same caring that you feel it shows a lack of.

Again, these are only my own best attempts to explain why people (myself included) might do the things they do. I can not understand such things fully, so it is best not to assume anything that I said is necessarily correct. It is simply a way that I think things might be. However, I think that the fact that things might be this way, if I am not mistaken, should serve as an example of how the things you observed do not necessarily indicate the conclusions you have drawn from them.[DOUBLEPOST=1413774432][/DOUBLEPOST]

I think your 'znajomy' would be best expressed using 'acquaintance' (derived from the verb 'acquaint' which roughly means 'to become familiar with', but without any meaningful level of intimacy) although that word is generally used for people you have business dealings with, not people you would interact with much on a personal level.

Edit: Actually, Acquaint might be more along the lines of 'to make familiar'. It would generally be used as "acquaint X with Y", and when used in the way I originally said would usually be done as "become acquainted with Y"

 

What is this I don't even...My mind is completely boggled right now...

EDIT: You know what? That does it. That's it. I'm done. I'm out of here. I've tried to be patient, and I've tried to be kind...but ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WORKS...I really thought I had become alot nicer than I used to be years ago and that people would notice but NOBODY notices or acknowledges that...AND my apology was literally COMPLETELY IGNORED...

No that's it...That does it...That definitely does it...I AM OUT OF HERE. I refuse to deal with any more of this bullshit...

 

Honestly.. I don't know what you're apologizing before. It makes no sense to me for you to apologize for being you. If you think that you used to be a bad person, but have now stopped being that way.. The fact that you have improved as a person is worth more than any apology. So since I don't really see the point of an apology, I can't really formulate a good reply to it, and I had other things to talk about it anyway so I didn't specifically respond to it. Perhaps that was selfish. That's something I'll have to think about.

Either way, I'm not really sure why you're so upset in the post I just quoted part of. You had already reacted to everything that had been posted before my previous post, so I don't think that you're reacting to that.. But I can't see anything in my post that would upset someone.. Even if I missed the point completely in that post, it seems relatively inoffensive.

 

Oh, great. A duel. I'll enter in one when I'm not too busy or tired.

Spoiler

You back...? You are actually... Back...?





Yaaaaaaaay~!!!

Spoiler: Welcome Back~

Dude. I'm happy you returned. Now probably I can pay more attention to this place. I kinda stopped caring it due to your leaving. That, and I'm taking care of my baby brother to earn money for a Nintendo 3DS and Pokémon ORAS. :D

Spoiler: Hug~

Now everyone, shut up and give Jaden a hug.

 

I really don't have any way to rate you in prism of your past, since I never even looked at previous arenas. For me you were working for yourself only here. I don't see that much of a difference. And to apology part, well if you didn't noticed I were angry at you at the time and tired. After all there is a little thing called time difference. Even if I tried to respond in any way (either by just telling you that's bullshit of apology or accepting it, because basing it from your reaction you just want any kind of response) I probably were sleeping at the time. So yeah I kinda didn't had a chance to not ignore it.

And BTW. that's definitely overreacting on your part.

 

*hugs you and Pinkie* Abby I'm sorry...You and Pinkie Pie are my friends and always will be...But I can no longer tolerate this...But at the very least I can promise to still give you a way to contact me. Do you have a Skype?

 

No. But I do have Hotmail, Gmail, DevianART, Pokémon Pets and a fanficition account.

EDIT: And a DN account, of course. :)

 

I wasn't going to comment on this.. I decided not to comment on this, but it's really annoying me right now so I'm going to anyway.

When you were going to leave, you didn't like the way Yakumo and I reacted. I wrote a lengthy post trying to explain why we were acting the way we were. You never respond to that. Immediately after you come back, you insult both Yakumo and me, and then have the nerve to complain when Yakumo takes offense to that. Not only that, you follow up with "I'm sorry I used to be bad, but I'm not bad anymore so you should praise me." I try to set that aside and explain why Yakumo would be upset. Again, you don't respond to what I said, and then complain that I didn't specifically mention your apology when I was quoting the post it came from, and on top of that act like I've done something so horrible that you never want to speak to me again. I tell you that I don't know why you're offended, and further try to explain why I didn't specifically respond to your apology. And then you ignore that post too.

Honestly, if what Yakumo and I are saying indicates that we don't care about you in the slightest, then what you're doing must indicate that you actively hate both of us with a passion.

Edit: I was annoyed when I posted this. The part in the quotes is a bit of an overstatement. Editing to fix some spelling and grammar.

 

Your post was too long and I didn't understand it.

And I had a perfectly good reason for doing so if you were paying attention.

...Were you even paying attention? I was upset because the two of you didn't even care that I might've been gone forever because I thought my friends would be sad about that... Seriously, Why is this such a difficult concept to understand? What if one day you found out you had a severe case of cancer and only had a few days left to live? Wouldn't you tell your friends that? And how would it make you feel if after you told them they all just said something like: "Oh well toodles! =P Guess I'll just go do something else now =P" I'm just using this as a metaphor.

...WTF? And I mean seriously WTF?

 

Everyone, break it up. Some people don't know how to react to things exactly as expected from someone else. It's just personality difference. Most likely no one here actually thought ill of you, Jaden. This argument is just making the communication barrier harder and harder to break, so I suggest stopping here.[DOUBLEPOST=1413847827][/DOUBLEPOST]@Jaden Yuki
I would also like to point out that if Fred didn't care about this, he would have just stopped commenting and left the arena.. and if not leave, just not reply to whatever you do. Instead, he's using energy to be annoyed when he could simply not care. So.. this could mean he does care.

 

That reminds me, I've been meaning to apologize to you as well. I still feel terrible for the horrible things I've said to you in the past...I want you to know that I think you're a great person and that I'm happy to have known you...

@Fred and Yakumo:

It's perfectly clear that I don't understand you and that you don't understand me and that that will never change at this point and that neither one of you is ever going to see me as a friend or forgive me. So I'm just going to do the smart and sensible thing and leave before I cause anymore trouble...

 

Hey, it's nice to have you back.../sarcasm

Yes, Jaden, you should do that because seriously... I'm ignored 1/5 of the time but you are ignored ONCE and you start harping about it. I was ignored by you just now!

And if the reason for it's that I've been posting too little, it's because you haven't been around for so long and I've started to renew my love for Pokémon, to which I started to indulge by playing online games, going to new forums and even working my butt off to buy the new games. Plus my ever decreasing interest for Yugioh.

I was considering to make time to start posting more frequently here but if you're gonna start harping for the slightest thing, I think I'll simply ditch my efforts and completely leave the Yugioh fandom entirely(and this place).

YaddaYaddaYadda, RantRantRant.

 

Why are you imitating Fred and Yakumo? I think you must've missed the part where I said I was acknowledging you for not acting the way they did...Because earlier you DID show that you were sad that I thought I was leaving...

That hurts my feelings...............Seriously it really does..............Because now you suddenly don't even give a damn anymore...

Sorry I just didn't know what to say...[DOUBLEPOST=1413854772][/DOUBLEPOST]

Well I guess that is true...I hadn't thought of that...

 

If you don't understand, just ask. I mean, you're getting mad because you think Yakumo and I don't care about you.. But wouldn't it seem like you don't care about me if you don't understand why I say, and then don't even care enough to ask what I meant?

And what is that reason? Because when you came back he treated you with sarcasm? Without any context, that would indeed be a good reason to be upset. Maybe it was still a good reason in context. But Yakumo had a good reason to be upset too. His friend left, so he was sad. Maybe a little maybe a lot. Either way, when his friend got back he would be happy, right? But as soon as his friend got back, his friend insulted him immediately. All he did was congratulate you, and you called him soulless. That would upset most people, and it upset me too.

I understand why you were upset. What I was complaining about here is that you were treating me and Yakumo in a way that would upset you if you were treated that way. If any of us insulted you, you'd be really mad. And yet you insulted Yakumo for no reason.

No one said "Guess I have to do something else now." In fact, the one who came closest to it was Abby, who soon after you left commented that she was going to post less due to playing in a pokemon arena.

This post is the first time you've actually responded to me since you've come back. You've insulted me, apologized for god knows what, complained that I wasn't reacting to every single thing you said, announced that you were going to leave after I posted when no one else had posted since last time you did.. But this is the first time you have Ever even directly acknowledged the fact that I have posted anything. I feel like I should be the one saying WTF.

Honestly, this is right. Brook has been perfectly right this entire time. Right both in what he has posted and when he has not posted. As such, I'm going to follow his advice and stop this.

 

Sorry. I was having a terrible headache.

Look. What I was trying to say was that I stopped caring about this place after you left, only esporadically coming when I checked on my Gmail alerts.

I saw Yakumo and Smokebomb dueling, which made me think that the Arena had redemption.

THEN I saw that you returned, which made me feel very happy.

BUT then I saw that you, Yakumo and SirFred were at each other throats which made feel really bad.

And if that wasn't bad enough, you startef acting a bit hypocrite by saying you were ignored and not listening to SirFred, when being ignored is pretty much my shtick (along with being a really bad duelist).

And if that wasn't bad enough, you had to ignore me once again, which only reinforced the hypocrisy from my POV.

I'm sorry. I really am. As I said, I had headache while the above happened. Plus the stress of my new job. And I really didn't liked it that you were being so narrow-minded.

It wasn't my intention to be mean. If somebody actually read my welcome back post, they would have noticed that I said I wanted to the discussion to finish and to celebrate your return. But both of you just continued.

 

This is the only hug I have handy. It's not quite fitting, but since wiser minds than mine have demanded a hug, a hug Jay shall receive.

Spoiler: hug

Sorry about that. I suppose I haven't done anything good for the arena in a while, and now my arguing with Jay has made him want to leave. I think I'm going to be a bit selfish and use this as an excuse to walk out. GG, WP.

 

@Toon-Girl-Abby I actually meant to respond to where you welcomed me back. It must've slipped my mind.[DOUBLEPOST=1413868114][/DOUBLEPOST]

I see.

Apparently I must've badly misunderstood something...

*facedesk*

I really thought this was already explained...

That's beside the point...