The Yugioh Card Duel Arena 10.0

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Apr 20, 2013.

  1. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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    ...you've got to be joking.
    Don't hinder your opponent in any way?
    You can nuke their field on both yours and their turn. while inflicting burn damage.
    You can't use S/T to take them out.
    So you have to rely on monsters.
    which are immediately destroyed the second you get them out.
    I mean, I MIGHT be able to get rid of them with Micheal, but it'd require quite a bit of cards.
    And that's just with my archangels. Most decks will have extreme trouble getting over that, if they can at all. They DO hinder your opponent. a lot.[DOUBLEPOST=1370320780][/DOUBLEPOST]
    also...the seal seems to be lacking it's protection effect...
     
  2. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    And even if they could only destroy things on their own turn, or you could summon an infinite amount of monsters in one turn for free, a simple Waboku makes them completely impossible to remove from the field until your next turn.
     
  3. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    ............................................Goddammit you guys...

    And what I mean by that is there was really no point in saying that since he didn't even seem to know about Waboku...

    And by "hinder" the opponent I actually meant restrict them. Take Great Shogun Shien or Light and Darkness Dragon for example. They cause much greater problems for the opponent.

    His cards don't really do much to stop plays. Plus you could easily get back the monsters you lost. It's just a matter of maintaining a good hand size to summon enough beatsticks to mow down his field. Which is very easy to do in non-random.
     
  4. Beucefilous Kingdom Keeper

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    The fact it can nuke their field gets in the way of plays significantly.
    It takes quite a bit of cards to get over them, and then they could just be special summoned from the graveyard.
     
  5. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Yes, tell me how you can maintain a good hand size when your opponent can activate a single quick-play spell card, special summon a bunch of super powered monsters, and set the remaining five cards face-down.
    Can one even get rid of four monsters that cannot be removed from the field other than being destroyed by battle or tributed as a cost with a single non-custom card to start with? In the case that they don't turn out to be all counter traps, they may still be cards like mirror force and dimensional prison instead. Even the mighty E-dragons shall tremble in fear against these OP heroes!
    One cannot simply go up against that field and expect to, with all their skill, summon enough monsters to successfully "Mow down" every single one of those monsters.

    Edit: and even if they managed to do so, the opponent can just use another one of their quick-play spells and revive every single one for a quick OTK. don't expect to win the turn you summoned 10+ monsters to take down 4, nor should you expect to have any cards left to set for protection after doing so as well.

    Oh, and might I ask why "Avengers Assemble!" has the power of necromancy? Reviving the dead surely does not make much sense seeing what it's based off of.
     
  6. Lyris1026 Moogle Assistant

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    Sorry for my away time. Was I forfeited from my duel against Smoke?
     
  7. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Okay.. I challenge you to a duel then. I go first. I use assemble, then normal summon Captain America, and set two. You may not use custom cards, or lava golem, but may use anime or video game exclusives. Every time you summon a monster to your side of the field, you may draw one card. Try to beat me.
    Oh, and you can ignore rule 11, assuming you don't use herald of green on my first turn. (because you would just drain your hand to nothing and I'd still get them out on the third assemble.)

    Edit: Oh, and to give you a fighting chance.. I wont use Starlight Road, Waboku, or any counter traps. In addition to this, I will not summon any more monsters, and if my field is cleared of monsters you instantly win.
     
  8. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I would take out your 2 facedowns and then play Dimensional Fissure and set up my banished zone with Convert Contact and use Dimension Fusion to bring back 5 Neo-Spacian monsters. I now lose 4 of them to your 4 monster's effects. Next I use Pot of Benevolence to get back Dimension Fusion. I play it again. The 5 monsters on my field now being 5 Neo-Spacians. And you've already used up the monster destruction effects for that turn. I can now use Space Gift to gain massive advantage. Then I would play Dark Hole to clear my field of monsters and then Fusion Summon E-Hero Wildedge and have him attack and kill all 4 Avengers for game since you said I would instantly win if your field was cleared of monsters.
     
  9. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Sorry, but you'd have to do something more threatening to get me to waste my destruction effects. And I summoned an extra captain america.

    Edit: I'm assuming you used heavy storm, I chain damage diet and jar of greed, giving me hand three. you have hand four and a full field of neo-spacians after using fusion once, with 6k LP left. continue your turn as you like.
    [​IMG]
     
  10. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    If it was me, I wouldn't waste my effects on monsters that can't harm me.. maybe if you can summon wildedge six times in one turn, that might work..
     
  11. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    You're wrong. He can't summon one in the battle phase, and I can just wait until the battle phase to kill his first five.
     
  12. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    ah, you're right. this'll be pretty interesting..
     
  13. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    I'm not going to actually Duel about this. Anyway I'm sure there's something that can be done but I don't feel like thinking about it right now.
     
  14. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    You're sure there's something that can be done, but you don't feel like thinking about it.. sure.. But this is a two card combo, essentially. Brook just challenged me to a duel with the same terms as for this one, and he lost despite the fact that I'm playing solely to showcase the power of these customs, and trying to avoid doing much else.. Although he did force me to drop a single veiler, I had also used maxx C, so I had a hand of twelve despite that, and he surrendered without destroying a single one of my monsters.

    If I chain C to your fissure, there is no way for you to clear my field of monsters without boosting me over a hand of ten, and I'm backed up by Damage Diet, so I'm really hard to kill. Even an honested wildedge would only do around 5k damage to me, and using Honest means no fissure, means I can use whatever hand traps I like. Add to that the fact that it's really expensive to clear my field even if you can somehow figure out a way.. and I can just replenish it with two cards, and I'll have done 3.2k of nearly guaranteed burn with their effects.

    It's very easy to kill an unsupported LaDD, and it only costs one card if you do it right. Unsupported, these are still really hard and expensive to kill no matter what you do.
     
  15. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Yeah.. you're going to be using about 30 cards just to clear it without lava golem or volcanic queen..
     
  16. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Okay, time to redeem yourself.. As proof that there are a lot of ways to kill an unprotected LaDD, your opponent has no cards in hand, their grave is only Photon Sanctuary, and they have LaDD on the field. You have no field, no grave, and a hand of three. Kill it in three different ways.
     
  17. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    1. Volcanic Queen.
    2. activate dark hole, chain offering to the doomed.
    3. normal summon a 1900 atk beatstick and use two cards for LaDD to negate, thus lowering him to 1800 atk, then run him over.
     
  18. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Hmm.. I was hoping for something a bit more elaborate, but that works. Probably better than something elaborate.
     
  19. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    /lazy.
     
  20. Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta The Demon Slayer

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    Anyone with any decent amount of skill can figure out how to beat an unprotected LaDD. There's tons of ways besides what Brooklyn mentioned.