The Yu-Gi-Oh! Card Duel Arena 5.0!

Discussion in 'The Playground' started by Hitokiri Shinigami Shinta, Jun 21, 2011.

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  1. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    I think it would be better if you let skiel get destroyed by battle to special summon another army monster from deck then use factory to destroy other army monster to summon wisel and get an army from deck... :lolface:
    but yeah...I think it would be a little useful at least.
     
  2. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    eh, just picked a meklord, don't actually know any of the cards.
     
  3. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    now that I think about it, mektimed blast might be the better choice cuz it destroys guardian of order AND the army monster special summoned by skiel's effect...
    so Ragin would be the only monster on the field and meklord emperor would eat it next turn lol

    and I seriously dont like synchros so ill go with meklords xD
    their like cheap ritual monsters that over power every fusion deck/ritual deck in the world -_-
    their effects are close to broken due to them being so easily summoned from the extra deck, I mean, look at red nova dragon >_>
    he cant be destroyed by card effects AND he has 5000 ATK or more after summoned... hes like a cheap version of F.G.D @.@
     
  4. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    yea, synchros are powerful, but they have a bunch of counter cards. there are the meklords, I think steelswarm has an anti-synchro monster, there's dischord, tuner's scheme, cards like royal opression work too, simply flipping the tuner with book of moon before your opponent can synchro summon works.
    add in all the basic stuff, like bottomless trap hole, and solemn warning too.
    not to mention Scar Red Nova isn't easier to summon than F.G.D. and F.G.D. can't be destroyed by battle, except with a light monster.
     
  5. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    im saying this based on random draw rate, can you draw the right cards to stop synchros from happening?
    15 synchro monster in extra deck=can summon any of them on 1st-3rd turn...
    even if a synchro is destroyed cards like starlight road and stardust phantom can bring about a lot of annoying-ness, seriously why did they make cards like this lol
     
  6. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    if you don't use heavy storm, you wont have problems with starlight road, and phantom needs you to have already synched a stardust, and had it not slamed with bottomless, dimensional prison, or been removed after using it's effect.
    not to mention if you have 10 tuners, and 10 non-tuners in a 40 card deck, 3/4 9/16 27/64 81/256 243/1024 781/1024 *gets calculator* 609962/1048576 438614/1048576 so about a 41% chance you don't get both a tuner and a non-tuner, even before considering levels.
     
  7. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    Raigeki, torental tribute, etc.
    those cards can also be negated by starlight road and if used with red dragon archfiend, can easily bring out stardust dragon.
    but now we have yet ANOTHER threat... Xyz Monsters @.@
    like a downgraded version of synchros!! and if you add them both in the extra deck it would be very annoying indeed ._.;
    oh whats next konami...monsters that are just like synchros but without tuners to summon from extra deck?! DX
     
  8. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    torrential tribute and dark hole are about the only splashable cards that will run into starlight road with the current banlist, so hardly anyone uses it.
    and you'd have to kill your own archfiend for that.
     
  9. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    with the new Xyz monsters you dont need tuners which is very scary if you ask me >_>
    (but not as scary as tempora gods...)
     
  10. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I've been looking at the XYZ monsters, and haven't seen any really good ones. they seem to have nice support, but the low level ones I've seen, at least, aren't very strong.
     
  11. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    well numbers 17 revise dragon can get 3000 atk if I remember correctly, you can also tune it with a tuner monster in future turns after its already summoned if you dont have a tuner in hand at the time...
     
  12. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Xyz monsters don't have levels, they have ranks, so you can't synchro summon with them. and if it does get to 3000 atk, it can't attack directly, and that means you didn't use any of the Xyz support cards, because most, if not all, require you to detatch a material.
     
  13. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    seem to keep forgetting they dont have levels @.@ its the first I heard of a card like that when it came out...gotta get used to those new cheap things as well -_-
    and if I know konami they will make the most broken card of the Zexal series in the last few episodes like what they did Z-One and the tempora gods >_>
    and Yusei got a broken Quasar dragon vs Z-One so we might see some broken Xyz monsters near the end of Zexal...
     
  14. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    the fact that Xyz monsters don't have levels really breaks them. I mean, even quasar is useless if you can slap down two copies of burden of the mighty before it gets summoned, leaving it with no atk points, but Xyz monsters are completetly immune. most things can be blocked by level limit, completely immune. you can't even use cards like a rival apears.
     
  15. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    well either way, dont be surprized if they make a 5000 ATK Xyz monster that has 3 units and can attack directly when it drops an overlay unit people~
     
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    nah, it'd be more subtle. like three rank three Xyzs, 3000 atk, attacks times equal to it's overlays, and can drop an overlay to gain 3000 atk.
    oh, and did I mention more powerful?
     
  17. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    you mean it can have 9000 atk and cant attack at all? what a useless card lol...
    (the uselessness is in the difficulty of getting 3 Xyzs with 3000 atk in the first place.)
    and im going to love using Galaxy eyes >_>...it will put an end to those cheap cards -_-
     
  18. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    no, 3000 atk three times, 6000 attack twice, 9000 attack once, 12000 attack 0 times.... and then you use this monster...
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    2 Level 5 monsters
    This card can only be destroyed by battle with another "Number" monster. You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to target 1 Xyz Monster on the field that has no Xyz Materials attached to it; if the target's Xyz Materials are in the Graveyard, attach them to it.

    and then it's 12000atk, attacks three times.

    I play rekindling. five levels three monsters special summon. I over lay four of them into two Xyzs, and then summon another level three monster, overlay that and the fifth into another rank 3 Xyz, then overlay the three, detach one, and have a 6000 atk, attacks twice.
    I didn't mean the Xyz's had to have 3000 atk, I meant the accel Xyz started with 3000 atk.
     
  19. Brooklyn Moogle Assistant

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    the odds of doing that is getting half your deck to near deck out state...
    and threatning roar ftw?...
    first of all, you have to probably get 2 monsters for Xyz summon x3 =6+2 for other Xyz summon for reattaching materials onto Xyz monster making you use 8 monsters and odds of none of them being destroyed by battle/card effect by the time your done with them is almost impossible...
     
  20. SirFred131 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    the odds of getting five level three flamvells into my grave in a deck that would be built out of level three flamvells to try to pull off that exact combo? and it's not like I can't just attack twice with 6000 atk next turn..
    especially with cards like soul of fire, and foolish burrial
     
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