the wii u is an ok console

I see what you did there.

 

I don't have a problem with the console itself. I don't own one, but played one a few times at a friends, and it has some great games :) I just don't like the controller at all, its basically a really big tablet with buttons, and I found using one really awkward and weird. In my last post I wasn't really bashing the console, just replying to one (presumably) sarcastic comment with another. Its all a matter of opinion after all :)

 

Fixed

 

goddammit i was going to do that what the **** am i supposed to do now
AND YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE A JOKE you just said "fixed" -- what a lazy ass post. i'm pissed. you stole my joke and did nothing with it. come on man.

 

The joke is in the reply. Plus, I'm too lazy to come up with a good joke.....or for that matter, I just fail at coming up with a good joke. Sometimes simplicity is the best thing

 

I need to go back in time and delete my argument and replace it with this post.

 

If this means anything, I managed to play through Bayonetta (Normal) and Bayonetta 2 (Third Climax) both using the Game Pad, with absolutely no issue.

I will say it might take some time, like an hour or so, but the thing is not even that different feeling to me anymore. The only thing I'd have liked was coloring the face buttons (A, B, X, Y.) Having them all the same color was an issue for me when doing the (already bad) QTE's in Bayonetta 1.

 

is you banned

 

I keep mixing X and Y......

 

I will say the only negative to the gamepad is probably the face buttons, when you shift your hand to use them the weight of the pad shifts throughout your hand and it's honestly a little uncomfortable to use. Otherwise though it's a pretty nifty device, if games integrate its screen well. Like Wonderful 101

 

Two things:

1. Never noticed the hand issue there, but I also have tiny hands. Sorry it happens to you.

2. I.... Never got into using the gamepad for W101- stuck to procontroller. I assume you like it, did you beat the game with it even?

 

The network infrastructure in the US is pretty awful, generally. More urban or populated areas have it okay, particularly California (for obvious reasons) and along the east coast, but you'll pay through the nose for it no matter where you go. The midwest varies greatly but is significantly lower, on average, than the coasts, especially in the rural areas. It's actually a very major economic issue, because to get a speed of 25 up/down, you're basically stuck with Verizon, Comcast, Time Warner, or AT&T, possibly less than that depending on your location. Many cities in Europe or Asia have internet speeds ten times faster than the US for half the price. Very few small ISPs can afford to upgrade their entire infrastructure to fiber and larger companies see no reason to invest the capital to do so because they have an oligopoly in the market. The increasing deregulation of American business and markets is the culprit here, and it's definitely not going to improve given the dubious rulings on net neutrality lately; the market is cornered so there's no pressure to improve prices or infrastructure.

Companies like Nintendo or Sony can locate all their servers in Europe or Asia or somewhere else where internet service is cheaper, more reliable, and faster, but it's a further trip for US customers and therefore US customers are going to suffer lag -- placing their servers in the US might still be a laggy experience for US customers, but not as laggy as an EU server, in general. Even that's changing though given how far behind the US is falling. Basically, blame the US politics and economy for your lag. Nintendo's infrastructure obviously has a long way to go before it catches up to Sony or Microsoft but sometimes it's not all their fault.

 

Well, this is why some companies like Microsoft have multiple server locations across the world to decrease global lag issues. In Nintendo's case, American users even from backwoods of nowhere seem to have fine games (unless you're Nova- don't be Nova's internet, kids), which is why I was curious if it was more of an NoE issue than a Nintendo in general issue. Even the Smash community seems to praise Smash 4 games for being mostly lag-free and Monster hunter 3 Ultimate only have occasional speed drops rather than crashed games or lag.

I have no concrete information on this- it's all through observation at this point.

 

Well server collocation and having multiple datacenters for a large company like Nintendo is pretty much mandatory -- I don't know how well Nintendo is doing it, though. Microsoft's advantage has always been that they charge for online and therefore can funnel that capital into multiple high-speed datacenters, unlike Nintendo or Sony (up to this gen). On a game-per-game basis I'm sure there's plenty a developer can do to optimize online experiences, which is why some games have more lag than others, like you're saying. User-end access to online multiplayer and streaming in the US is still seriously crippled by our terrible network infrastructure.