From early bands such Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden to modern bands such as Black Label Society and Iced Earth, and from early innovating musicians such as Tony Iommi and Geddy Lee to modern masters such as Yngwie Malmsteen, metal is a huge and very important genre, so lets all gather together and throw up the horns to appreciate and talk about an important piece of musical history. To start, what form of metal do you folks think better represents metal as a whole? The light, speedy power metal with bands such as Blind Guardian and Kamelot, the thinking man's progressive metal with Dream Theater and Symphony X, the heavy, often imposing death metal with Amon Amarth and Job for a Cowboy, or something other than what I present here? Come on folks, there is no wrong answer here.
1. Bullet for my Valentine. (new stuff isn't really death metal but it is stil metal. 2.Underoath :D I really love the meta genre. its the new generation of music and is growing larger and larger. Power to the Metal!
Neither Bullet for My Valentine or Underoath are death metal. Quite the contrary, the more violent and extreme death metal fans would literally beat you for associating metalcore bands with death metal. I personally think that's an immature and counterproductive solution, but then, I'm not an excessively violent person. I do have to point out that you are mistaken on calling metalcore bands death metal, though.
Unfortunately for you... the name of your thread is 'metal' appreciation. i said their new stuff isn't close to it just meaning that they got even CALMER from their old stuff. in no way did i say that they were ever deathmetal.
Yes, but the way I interpreted your post suggested it. However, I never said metalcore isn't metal. In fact, it is and it would stupid of anyone to try to claim otherwise. It is also a fusion of metal and hardcore punk. All the "core" sub-genres are this way, whether its metalcore, grindcore or deathcore. I personally dislike the vast majority of metalcore, but that's just me. However, this post is suggesting that calm music isn't metal. While metal is usually pretty turbulent, many power, progressive and neo-classical metal bands can get pretty calm.
Perfect Example- Aiden. Great Song of their old stuff- "Last Sunrise" Their new stuff doesn't scream at all. its categorized under Alternative. idk what happened for them to do this.
Some people misunderstand the metal and they call it just noise( bah they suck ). I think that the metal isn't represented for just a single form, I think that the metal is represented with all its forms such as Power metal, Death Metal, Trash Metal, etc. Yes the style of each of them is very different but still they form the metal.
I've heard metalcore songs that don't use screams. Vocal style isn't what makes a band completely. There are death metal bands such as In Flames and Between the Buried and Me that have been known to use clean vocals as well as death vocals and power metal (a genre that generally avoids death vocals) that uses death vocals. Nor is screaming an element only found in metalcore. 3 Inches of Blood, a power/thrash band uses a combination of high pitched "clean" vocals and screams for vocals. Because of this, some people have mistakenly called them metalcore when thrash metal and power metal are much better descriptions of their sound. As for a metalcore band being referred to as alternative, well, nu-metal and alternative metal bands such as KoRn (bleh) and System of a Down have used elements that metalcore thrives on long before metalcore gained the popularity it has. Of course, I could be dead wrong here because, as exemplified by 3 Inches of Blood, people mistake genres all the time. And here we have the million dollar answer. Thank you. I wholly agree.
