Video The KH-Vids.net MEP 2012 : Second Phase!

Discussion in 'Production Studio' started by Guardian Soul, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. HellKitten Kingdom Keeper

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    Well, thank you for letting me join late. ^^'
    I'll get back to you as soon as I figure out my song
     
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    Just remember though, the length allowed for your part is up to 1 minute. Don't know if its in the first post, but its been asked too many times.
     
  3. lillovedoctor

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    ok cool thanks
     
  4. HellKitten Kingdom Keeper

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    I'll be using Mark David Chapman by Mindless Self Indulgence.
     
  5. Guardian Soul hella sad & hella rad

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    Okay, here's the critique. I'm sorry if these sound mean.

    I see that you've tried to do more lyrical and beat synching in your video and that's a step in the right direction.

    One thing I noticed though is that the video sort of just ends without any sort of resolution. Think of it like how plots are taught in English class. You've got your beginning, rising action, climax, falling action and then end. Your video feels like it's building up to a climax, which is usually the chorus of the song, and then it just ends before we get there. Kind of disappointing, don't you think? Think of your MEP part like a short story. You want to tell the story quickly but well enough that it leaves an impact and people understand what they have just watched. It's like you took the song and ended it one minute in because that's your time limit. Instead you could try starting at a different point in the song to allow you more time to find a nice part to end it at.

    Another thing is that it isn't focused enough. What I mean by this is that I can't determine who this video is about. Is it a Terra video? A Riku video? A Ven one? Roxas? Sora? The lyrics in particular don't fit Ven, Roxas and Sora so I'm a little confused as to why they're there. And looking through the lyrics of the song, this is very much a song that fits with Riku and/or Terra.

    First thing I noticed about the video is the Kingdom Hearts 3D footage that you used. What brought my attention to it was its low quality...because it was recorded with a camera. Find a video of that cutscene that was recorded properly or I won't accept it.

    As for the editing, well the video lacks a fundamental concept. What's the point of this video? Do you want to tell a story? Do you want to want the video to be tightly synched to the music? How do you want to the audience to view this footage. Because at the moment, there doesn't seem to be any lyrical synching or beat synching or anything that fits with the mood so for me, it just looks like Kingdom Hearts scenes set to disco. The song and video just feel like they're there...to be there. There needs to be an idea that makes those two work together or they'll never work together and neither will the video as a result.

    Okay I really like what you've done to improve this video. The scenes are flowing together much better in my opinion and to be honest, little changes like that do make a difference in how your video is viewed. I know you asked for help on the Riku section in particular but I think it works fine the way it is and so does the rest of the AMV to be honest. Maybe you could try adding more scenes of "what he was like" and then of "what he became" to get the point across better? Honestly do what feels right for you. I suggest looking at videos that are like the one you're editing right now and see what you can pull from them. If you feel that something from another video would work in yours then why not try it out?

    I also updated the table in the first post. If I missed someone or put the wrong info in a row, please tell me.
     
  6. Terra254 Traverse Town Homebody

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    Does this include the 2 seconds before and after our video?
    Like is it 56 seconds of video, or 60?
     
  7. Guardian Soul hella sad & hella rad

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    No, those two seconds of black space before and after the video don't count.
     
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    You really should have been specific when telling us that. Also it might not be a bad idea to edit the front page with this new stuff.​
     
  9. Guardian Soul hella sad & hella rad

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    I thought it was pretty obvious. At least that's what I assumed from the people who have already uploaded their parts to be turned in or for critique. These two seconds before and after my video technically aren't part of my song. So why would they count as a part of it? Your audio cut has to be 1 minute. The video in total doesn't. Plus I've already answered this before.

    I'll edit the first post to include the new stuff though along with clearing up a few things. Would anybody else like me to clear anything up?
     
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    Ok, thanks.
     
  11. TitanTX Destiny Islands Resident

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    So you're saying to focus on one character that is either Riku or Terra, can i do it like both one side Riku and one side for Terra. And you are also saying that i can cut the song from anywhere in the middle to match up or tell a short story with beat syncs and lyrical syncs as well huh. Can i get this done sometime next week, since i university projects to take care of as well. Thanks
     
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    Ok, I didn't think that song would work anyway. I'll try something different
     
  13. Guardian Soul hella sad & hella rad

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    Actually you could focus on both of them if you want to. I just felt that the scenes with Roxas, Ven, and Sora were somewhat unnecessary. And I think you misunderstood what I meant with my metaphor. I was saying that I think it'd be better if you start and end at different points in the song so you could better tell your story while still fitting into the time limit. I'm expecting all of the parts in this MEP to be succinct so you gotta find what in the song is necessary while cutting out what isn't.

    Honestly it isn't that the song wouldn't work. You just didn't make it work. But whatever...if you want to use a different one, go ahead. Tell me what song you're going to use so I can put it on the list.
     
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    Can we ask for help with our videos here? Like effects and such on?
     
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    Thank you. that was very sound advice you gave, and I think it will be changing my style for the better in the future. I've tweaked the Riku section a little, and I'll continue to tweak the whole thing with effects and so on. I'll post a final draft (If I may so call it) at the end of the month.
     
  16. Guardian Soul hella sad & hella rad

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    Go ahead! I'd be happy to help and I'm sure others could give advice as well if you're having trouble.

    No problem. If you need anymore help, I'd be glad to offer more advice.
     
  17. Ienzo ((̲̅ ̲̅(̲̅C̲̅r̲̅a̲̅y̲̅o̲̅l̲̲̅̅a̲̅( ̲̅̅((>

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    I have decided that I will be using "Running up that Hill" by Placebo.

    I decided to go for a slower song for fun :D I'm looking forward to this now.
     
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    I'll be using Morning Glow by Draw the Emotional.
     
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    Here is my part. I wanted to post it to make sure everything was good. From 0:28 - 0:32 it looks pretty much all black for some reason. Im thinking its just because my computer and the youtube player dont get along too well because it looks fine on my phone and when i watch it with windows media player but its always good to make sure. So it would be cool to let me know if you notice the same thing on youtube or if its just my computer and of course whatever other critique you have i would appreciate it =)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=H1S14AavZsM
     
  20. Ienzo ((̲̅ ̲̅(̲̅C̲̅r̲̅a̲̅y̲̅o̲̅l̲̲̅̅a̲̅( ̲̅̅((>

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    No black for me. :D That's really well put together in my opinion, you have a good sense of timing and you've used good paced scenes depending on the speed of the song so overall well done. Also, good choice of song!