Kingdom Hearts II The bald guy is not Xehanort, but I'd bet money he's...(also my spec on ending)

Don't spam. Anyways... interesting theory Shadowjak, very well thought out.

 

Okay... heaps good theory shadowjak.

 

Well, the only things we can work with ARE:

The only one we have seen where the same outfit as the bald man now is Xehanort's Heartless AFTER he acquired Riku's body for his own... Before he appeared in a strange robe that looked like a sack... So... Hm, now, we can only affiliate the outfit and possibly the person wearing it with things regarding Xehanort.. (just as Org XIII worked, anyone wearing an ORG coat is either in the Org, or also believes in their approach to light & darkness together...) So, either this bald man is a Heartless born from an individual who threw his heart away of his own volition (which for some reason I doubt, since Xehanort was rather white, Xemnas was too, and Xehanort's Heartless, as well as Riku when he awoke him from his heart had a very-dark tan) a strange case like Xehanort (the original subject matter Ansem and his colleagues had was Xehanort's mysterious amnesia and power, and the connection this might have with the heart in general) Or possibly he is one of Ansem's other relative characters. We can only assume that this bald man has something to do with one or a combination of the following: Darkness, Heartless, Ansem, Ansem's apprentices, Xehanort, and/or Xehanort's Heartless.

 

WOW Just...wow...
I say "Wow," for three different reasons which I will now present.

Wow 1: Those theories fit almost pefectly. That was amazing.

Wow 2: I can't believe I just sat through that. (I'm really impatient. I once punched a waiter walking by me because my steak hadn't arrived yet...Only to find out that he had it in his hands and was approaching because he was bringing it to me. Surprise!)

Wow 3: I can't believe you typed all that just to impress a couple of us idiots. (I'm getting frustrated just typing this post!)

That must have been really intriguing just to keep me reading all the way! Awesome! Rep for you!

 

I responded to this in my therory already, and here it is:

1. Thanks. Took alot of thought, watches of the secret ending, looks at scans, and aspirns... Lot's of aspirins.

2. Lol, now I'm truly proud of my therory. Not only did it make sense, but it was entertaining.

3.Well, I was quite irriated myself for awhile. But I was asked to get more involved with the forum since I'm always just hanging around like a pissed off zomibe-like person. SO since I hold high respect for this person I told them I would. Figured the best place to start wolud be in speculation, what better thing to make a thread there about then a completely out there therory that at the same time makes perfect sense, lol.

 

WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW! How do you come up with these theories?

 

Simple. Equivalent Exchange. We give up our lives for the capacity for indepth thought. lol So now, we have no life, but can come up with complex ideas that can't totally be proven, since the creators have the final say. Fortunately for ourselves, money makes the world go round, so one of those decisions CANNOT be end the project suddenly. So for the time being, we're gonna speculate. I think the bald man is a whole different character... But DOES have to have some relationship with Xehanort, Heartless, Ansem, or his apprentices... If we are going by his clothes (which, as dumb as it sounds, is all we can really go on anymore..)

Afterall, besides Riku (who he hit a bulls-eye with) with ASAS and DD, we thought Roxas was Sora... Mainly because we kinda WANTED him to be Sora, the glimpse of a face we had.. his Keyblades.. especially with 2 keychains we'd already seen, the Oathkeeper in-particular.. and his choice of throwing the Oblivion and not the Oathkeeper to Riku... I mean, that kinda could make you think Sora.. but then again, not all of us thought into the 3 extra Ansem Reports.. and thought it might be someone very MUCH like Sora instead. So, with the bald man, I got nothin' specific besides Ansem & Co., about the image of the knight with broken helmet, with the blue eyes and brown hair... it's likely not Sora himself... but.. SETO KAIBA! lol Ok, just kidding there, but we can assume in some way that this knight specifically has something to do with Sora.. especially if he is the knight who chose to dual-wield using Sora's Kingdom Key. But come to think of it though, one, where are they? two, what are Sora, Riku, & Mickey's keyblades doing out there and not w/ their wielders?

 

Damn...your good.

But I want to ask something shadowjak.

What are the chances of Riku having a nobody?
You know how Xehanort's heartless took over Riku's body, what if this caused Riku to temporarily turn Riku into a heartless without him knowing.
I know this is a long-shot but i want to see if this may make any sense to you guys

 

Ok, nothing to do with my therory at all, so this will be considered off-topic. But I will still answer. The chances of Riku having a nobody are high. His heart left his body, all the proof we need is in FM where we saw Riku's heart behind the door to darkness while Xehanort's heartless still had control of his body...

 

nice theory but no one but king mickey was every actually after the keyblades to begin with. like atw: he was trying to get revenge for his ruin home world he never mentioned being after the keyblade, org xiii: theyre trying to become whole by using kingdom hearts to give all nobodies hearts, xehanorts heartless: he was trying to gain the ultimate darkness from kingdom hearts.
as for riku gaining the power of the keyblade when taking control of rikus body, why the hell would ne need riku if he could already use the keyblade, infact why was he even using riku as a host, hes a heartless not a leech,
also we know that when there is a different keychain the keyblades form changes, rikus heartless keyblade in kh1 didnt have one, it was made of the hearts of the 6 princess of heart and since it had no keychain it would not ever be able to change form. on the other hand atw wasnt evil, he was know for being a good and fair ruler of r.g. we also never seen atw wearing this jacket. we only say xehanorts hearts wear it and we know that he was running around saying that he was ansem(if you run around saying your bob to some pople who never seen you before why would they doubt you?) you the look may not be as important as you think. but also bold guys little friend was clothes like heartless riku from kh1(his not a heartless thats just what they called him in khcom) these clothes were also worn by riku while being controled by xehanorts heartless, we also know that xehanorts heartless is to this point still alive and sealed in riku(unless riku in the form of xehanorts heartless being in the explotion and reverting back to normal self was because xehanorts heartless was destroyed) alot of people also assume this is in the past maybe even before the events of kh1, so here a theory
xehanorts heartless before taking control of riku took over control of this bold guy first(this would explain the clothes and the keyblade maybe that of the bold guy because his the keyblade master before sora that xigbar spoke of) and his riku look alike friend may not actually be a friend but a member of a netrual party, since he doesnt seem be be fighting(just standing there) and as alot of people have theorised the 3 knights are chasers, but we dont know how many there really are, for all we know the 3 "chasers" are actually the 4 keyblade masters that go with the theory of the 4 keyblade masters with 2 going of to darkness and one changing his mind blah blah blah. so anyway these 3 chasers have to fight to save one of their own(the one xehanorts heartless has control of) and to stop xehanorts heartlesses evil plaa
that plan being that xehanorts heartless take over the bold guy and combind his powers with his own making him even more powerful and he was one that collected all those keyblades cause his hunting down the keyblademasters from all over the worlds so the 3 chasers are chasing xehanorts hearless

hey belive it or now we re all here to learn abouteachothers ideas so please comment or complain

 

Very good theory, lots of info to back it. Perhaps the best i've read. :D

 

thank you, i love my kingdom hearts :3

 

AWSOME^10 :P :DDDDD

the only thing i would suggest you do next time for a explanation like this is to divide it into paragraphs - i mean i did read the hole thing; but i had to use my mouse to keep track of where i was - Sheesh!

and now - for my thoughts~

Look a-like...ness :/
I think that Sora and that knight may look alike because:

A: keyblade weilders recieve the previous hearts that used to weild keyblades before them - you know.... sorta like a legacy, and rencarnation in one.

B: It could possibly be the rencarnation of a future/past Sora; if so- the knight's name would most likey not even be close to S-O-R-A, but may not even act like him :/

The Bald dude
I think he's a heartless of someone - same clothes as ansem except for the black on the outside of his coat (which, mind you, looks a whole lot like a Org. Coat - and his boots too!)

But WAIT!!! it get's even interesting - did you see how in one picture his Spiderman-like dude was weilding teh keyblade and then in another scene - BALDY was! -i swear, the keyblades they weild look identical - so that being said; I'd say that they are connected: One with a heart, and one without... *DA DA DOOM*

....hmm~ i would write more, but it's late..... so i'll try to update later


wo0

 

i know, my english skills are horrible xD

 

I think you're on to something about the keyblades. All the keyblades don't have a keychain EXCEPT for Kingdom key, (Mickeys) kingdom key, and way to dawn.

You also see fenrir during the beginning of the first kh3 trailer WITHOUT a keychain.

That's probably why only Sora, Mickey, and Riku have keyblades. (Forget about Kairi for now.)

They have strong Hearts. So, that speculation could have hit the bulls-eyes, Shadowjak! :D

 

I agree with lots of things in your theory shadowjak, but there are a couple parts i completely disagree with.

1. Why on earth would the knights be chasing after the keyblades to stop ansem the wise from trying to take them, when he was never trying to go after the keyblades to begin with? It makes more sense that the chasers have to do with the origion of the keyblade. This also makes more sense seeming as nomura has always wanted to delve more into the origion of the keyblade.

thats pretty much all i disagree with that i can remember.

I think that the bald guy is definitely related to ansem the wise, and not xehanort. i think this could be ansem the wise, or maybe his heartless? afterall, he was doing research on heartless. he could have created a heartless version of hiself accidentally in his research. I think this idea is further solidified by the fact that his and xehanort's outfits are similar, but not completely the same. It makes sense that xehanort's heartless would model himself after his mentor. I dont think that the guy in the wierd suit with ATW is xehanort though. Xehanort wouldnt have been strong enough to do lots of that, not to mention wield a keyblade. I mean if xehanort could wield a keylbade, he wouldnt have needed sora in the first place.

 

Okay
This blady creepy yellowed eyed freak, is not xheanort. I can live with that. (YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY) BUT do you think that the red dude was xheanort the NOBODY of the baldy coot. Think about it!
IM OFF TO HAVE CAKE

 

i think xehanort could use a keyblade (i.e.: the opened the door to the heart of radiant garden/hallow bastion, the same thing riku "the true keyblade master" did he could have lost it along with his memories)

 

Definitely no, as there are several better theories than this that show this video takes place in the past.

 

i think on another thread i had said he was ansem the wise too. so i agree with your theory. they have the same goatee, too. in some of the ansem reports, he said he had been conducting experiments with his pupils...about hearts and stuff. maybe the bald dude is ansem the wise as a younger (thats right, younger) person. he may seem evil here because the knights are trying to stop his research about keyblades. in the english version of the kh2 secret ending, it said ansem report 0, and it was all about keyblades. maybe ansem the wise and one of his pupils ( the heartless looking guy?) were there to research keyblades and the knights didn't like that. then maybe mickey beat ansem the wise, ansem the wise realized that his research was a mistake, ansem the wise grew his hair out, and his apprentice was still researching hearts and stuff. whoa, i just realized that this theory is actually convincing.
quick summary: ansem is doing research with his pupil (xehanort maybe? keep reading to see what i think), knights try to stop him, they fail, mickey comes and defeats ansem the wise, ansem stops his research and stops using a keyblade, xehanort doesn't want to stop researching and continues, ansem the wise or the knights destroy xehanort's memories, kh2 occurs. well, that sums it up for now.
who knows? but like shadowjak said, its a theory. and i have to say it sounds kinda right.