Kingdom Hearts II The bald guy is not Xehanort, but I'd bet money he's...(also my spec on ending)

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  1. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    (Yes, I had to make my own thread just to post my ridiculously long speculation that actually makes sense, stfu about saying we don't need naother thread. Also, if it's way too long and you don't really care about my thoughts on the secret ending, read until I stop talking about the bald guy. Since I rambled on and got carried away and talked about the secret ending).

    First things first, if you don't know of the bald guy I speak of, go to kh-vids(link is in KHU, KHinsider, etc). The scan is still on the main page...

    The bald guy isn't Xehanort like all these blind fanboys and speculators think. If people look past the jacket and the past therories, then they'd have realized this already. If it was Xehanort he'd look exactly like Xemnas or pretty f***ing close to him. The bald guy is obviously... Ansem the Wise. First things first, his hair. It's not long and silver, but shaved and blond. Ansem the wise had blond hair did he not? Yes, his was long, doesn't mean he didn't grow it later though. His skin pigment, Xehanort is on the tanish side, while Ansem the Wise is completely pale. This new bald guy is pale. Another match. His jacket... It is true that Xehanort's heartless wore it, however you forget that Xehanort was impersonating Ansem then, if you were impersonating someone wouldn't you try to look like them? I believe the guy in the heartless clothing is Xehanort. I mean he is obviously the bald guy's follower, and Xehanort was Ansem the Wise's follower(we have a match, since that guy is Ansem the wise, then his follower must be...). Not too mention he wielded a keyblade(supports that he's the bald guy's foollower not Xehanort). If Ansem found a keyblade master, wouldn't he use him? Afterall, he was more than interested in the keyblade and the heartless. Maybe once he found him he made him his apprentice. Also, When Riku accepted Xehanort's heartless he gained the ability to use a keyblade, one without a chain meaning it was an original(which will mean something if you keep reading, lol). Now your probably saying "Riku was able to use a keybalde because he had a strong heart, etc, etc" How can you believe that and also believe that he was denied a keyblade because he opened his heart his darkness? Clearly Xehanrot was an early keyblade master along with the knights. It isn't the least bit surprising he wore heartless armor while with Ansem either since that is what they based their research on. Perhaps all of his followers wear this? Anyway I believe that Ansem the Wise and imprisons all the knights. As we see in the scans, 'Xehanort'(guy in heartless clothin)' gets badly injured, maybe he captured these knights so he could still use a keyblade master for his research. That would explain why the big Knight is imprisoned in Ansem's study and why Xemnas knows exactly where he is. It would also explain why two of the pods in twilight town said that they hadn't been used in a very long time(Donald and Goofy's pods were hte ones that said Donald and Goofy were in, these are different ones...) Clearly Ansem not only built a virtual Twilight Town, but the real one as well. As we see, this area has the same sky as Twilight Town, constant twilight, half dark, half light, etc. Maybe he imprisoned the other two knights there while he took the other one to his study in Hollow Bastion. Hence why the armor looks the way it does, even though the armor is clearly different colored in the scan we see of Sora fighting him. Along with the rusted keyblades, not rusted, just glared(I'll get to the keyblades in a minute, if your still reading this I applaud you). Xemnas calling the big knight(I say big knight because well look at him, he's f***ing huge compared to the others) "friend"... OHH NOES! Something that could prove me wrong?! Guess again buddy. Clearly Xemnas called him that because he either befriended the knight while he was imprisoned or he called him "friend" for a much deeper reason, which is he thought he was the only keyblade master, meeting this kinght would've been great for him because he found someone like him, get what I mean? Good. Next therory(it was last, but then I thought of like three more therories >.>. Look this isn't easy for me either, just stay with me), the keyblade gathering. Why are there so many keyblades in this desert which will become Twilight Town without any key chains. I think the knights called them, and were trying to destroy them. WTF KEYBLADE MASTER DESTROYING KEYBLADES! DOES NOT MAKE SENSE! Yes it does... What if the knights learned of Ansem's research? Then they'd clearly try to stop it, since as Ansem himself basically said, it was horrible. I think they summoned the keyblades to seal them into the chains to hopefully stop Ansem's research. I mean if they killed Xehanort, he'd have no way to get a keyblade, all he's have are these chains. Hence why Ansem immediately shows up to stop them. And the keychain therory shows why Sora's keblade changes everytime. Speaking of Sora(almost done here, just got this one and the chasers), why does the big knight look like him? OMG IT'S SORA'S DAD! No... Just No... If you truly believe that please die, please die far away from me. Actually... I have no idea exactly why he looks like Sora, that perplexes me beyond belief. However, I do think the keyblade chose Sora because Sora's heart is as strong as the the big knight. And since he looks like him, it possibley only chose him because it got confused(this one is mostly half assed) while looking for it's true master. However, it is possible Sora is a reincarnation... Possibley a weapon of the worlds? I don't know that one... Anyway... FINAL THERORY: the chasers are not another enemy. if you believe they are take this rope, now tie it, tie the other end to the ceiling fan or something high up, now stick your head through the hole. Afterthis you will have infinite knowledge and figure the rest out for yourself. Ok, clearly you can't read the Ansem Reports. He said that a person was made of a body, heart, and soul that is true. But, he also said a Nobody is made up of the body and soul. So what are the chasers? The chasers are the knights. They are called the chasers because they chase the keyblades. Either that or Ansem and his followers are the chasers because they chase answers and the keyblade masters. Go with what you will.

    Look, this was only suppossed to be about the bald guy in the new scans but I kind've rambled on a bit and decided to just state the majority of my speculation because I've never actually posted my thoughts before. If you read this whole thing you have the patience of a god and I salute you. Please comment what you think.
     
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    Why would Ansem go around using those scary powers and that evil look in his face? I mean he is a good guy. Or maybe this is way back when he was some bad bold dude or somethin with Xehanort? AND why is Xehanort using a keyblade? I think that maybe the bold guy is some new character besides in FM+ Sora has to fight the knight so that means they havent been captured yet.
     
  3. Tafu` Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Good observation you could be right but I guess we'll just have to wait to see what happens right?
     
  4. Chad Thundercucc The dharma of valvu; the dream of a clatoris

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    Wow!!! This is really awesome and makes sense!! :eek: You get some rep!
     
  5. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Let's answer tihs one sentence at a time. Ansem the Wise, can you really say for certain that he is a good guy? Look what he did to Roxas, all for revenge. We see he is capable of being evil, something tells me this isn'this first time either. Afterall, he said his research only brought pain and he clealry realized it was wrong way into it and stopepd it immediately for a reason. As I said, he must've had a reformation after meeting the king. Riku did the same thing in his own way, after het the knig in the door to darkness, he gave up the darkness and fought it. Xehanort clearly has a strong heart and mind, and the whole darkness thing, is it that surprising he could have a keyblade? The kinght fight clearly takes place, AFTER Xemnas awakens him in the hidden part of Ansem's study.

    Thank you. I put alot of thought into this and had to watch that ending ober 100 times as well as look at the scans.

    Sadly... I so wish their was an answer sheet or something to let me know if I was right or not, lol.
     
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    Oh yeah. Sorry I was just saying. The bold guy must be Ansem. But why is that Knight in FM+? And why is Xehanort with the knight?
     
  7. Tafu` Merlin's Housekeeper

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    in the kh2-Fm trailer there was another member of the organization XII sitting down in a chair in a room, do you think the could be the same people?, and that heartless with the key blade maybe thats who he was talking to, maybe he was trying to revive it?
     
  8. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Xemnas wants a keyblade master, perhaps he's using this one and wants him to destroy Sora so no one can actually get in his way and he can use this one as he pleases.

    As I said in my theory, I believe that the one who sat in the chair is Xemnas, along with that heartless with the keyblade being Xehanort. I think he was definitly trying to reawaken the knight. As I said to rat, he wants a keyblade master more than anything so he can become whole again and is desirately trying to use Sora, I wouldnt doubt he used this one to.
     
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    Also in one of the scans it looks like one of the people on the suits of armor is Riku or Sora and by the looks of it I see kingdom hearts in the background so they might be trying to protect it, hey maybe they'll make a movie the way the storyline is shaping.
     
  10. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    First off, I talked about this in my therory. Please read the whole thing if your going to bring up stuff I already talked about. Anyway, it's not Sora(or Riku, no idea why anyone would think that looks like him, brown hair blue eyes, sounds like Sora to me. White hair and green eyes would be Riku). This takes place far in the past, not the near future. Besides, we have complete confirmation by Noruma that isn't Sora.
     
  11. keyblader of a nobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    well something to kill the moment...
    Ansem the Wise, Xehanort, the King, the Org 13, were all seeking the power of the keyblade to unleash the true power of Kingdom Hearts, more commonly known as to obtain the power n be complete.
    but nobody actually had the power of the keyblade. if AtW , he would have been engulfed in darkness. if Xhnrt (Ansem)had it, he would go str8 2 KH n finish the job instead of cornering Sora. if Xhnrt (Xemnas) had the power, he would complete his world to give Nobodies a heart (thats why i thin he is the good guy). the King found the Key to the Worlds (thats the name) when he adventured into the Darkness and into the heart of that realm: KH. Riku as the wilder but when he chose the other side, the key chose Sora.
    ... Sh*t... if you want to know about the keyblades, go to:
    http://forums.khinsider.com/showthread.php?t=73259&highlight=origins+mighty+keyblade


    n about the rest... AtW was the nicest person in R.G. n he was given a bad mane when Xhnrt took his name and messed things up.

    if you remember that somewhere in the story line, it was mentioned that there were 3 enemies? the Keyblader, The Heartless, and the Nothingness.
    the rest just fit into darkness and originally is powered by the Heartless

    Do you remember that when Ansem died he said "but why?!"
    my idea is that he might have not disappeared fully but just backed down...
    his calculations were wrong about KH n maybe we see him back now with his ideas to cover his mistakes and obtain again the power of the dark essence of
    KH n use the light to his advantage n no, that does not mean he is gonna be a nice guy this time...

    good theory though... but you gotta cover your basic like KH1...


    ---Khilango


    EDIT:
    when he captured Roxas was somewhat evil but his main reason was to bring Sora back to life with his help, Riku's and Naminé's.
    so sure revenge is bad but that helped the good guys to succed and @ the end, the king says (or Riku ... i 4got) says, "this started with Ansem's research, let's finish this FOR HIM."
    Also he confessed that even though he had plans for Sora, when he came back from sleeping, his plans were useless...
    Sora did the work for him without Sora even noticing but Ansem T. Wise thanked him by the awakening and the destruction of K.H.
     
  12. Tafu` Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Ah I see I'll take a hole read I had too many msn windows open if not I'll just have to wait till it comes out I'm sure that it will be on youtube soon in Japanese.
     
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    I believe the chasers are called 'chasers' because they chase the keyblade MASTER's so they can kill them off in case it would further benefit Ansem the Wise's studies.

    But I like your theory. It's well thought out. ;)
     
  14. Tafu` Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Darky...thats actually...convincing your theory could be correct.
     
  15. keyblader of a nobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    "#2. One who decorates metal by engraving or embossing."

    something tells me that they are the actual manufacturers of the keyblades.
    i mean there are many forms or souls but they need the apropiate keychain to regain their physical self and yada, yada, yada... you should get the point

    http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Chasers&x=0&y=0

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  16. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    Ok, that basically furthers backs up the one that says the chasers are Ansem and his followers. I agree, it would make more sense if it was ansem and his followers. Didn't actually think too much on that until I started writing down the speculation, lol.

    Anyway, thanks. I just stumbled across the thought while looking at the scans from the secret ending somehow it grew to a page long post, lol.

    No, just no. If the knights made the keyblades they would not be able to choose their masters, especially not by strength of ones heart. Not too mention Xehanort would not have them. Ansem probably would'nt give a damn about them, etc. So many things wrong with this. Let's stick to the first definition ok?
     
  17. keyblader of a nobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    sheesh Sally, dont get all emotional!

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  18. Shadow Tactician Traverse Town Homebody

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    i've also wondered about xemnas, and xehanort's heartless. listen to this.
    when riku was possessed by xehanort's heartless in kh1, he was able to use that dark keyblade. my question is, was he only able to do that because of the princesses? was it because of riku's ablility to use a keyblade, even though riku himself said that his heart was weak? or was it because xehanort was able to use a keyblade before his memory was taken? that gives me an idea.
    maybe xehanort lost his memories for a good reason. maybe he learned something that he shouldn't have, like something about Chasers, keyblades, hearts or something else. maybe the 3 knights or someone else destroyed his memory to prevent war or something.
    it kinda fits, doesn't it? comment on this please.
     
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    not a bad theory. but, 2 things....

    1. why would the, keyblade wielding(need i remind you), chasers want to destroy the keyblades?

    2. you spelled ansWers(among many others) wrong :p
     
  20. DigitalAtlas Don't wake me from the dream.

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    1. As I said, they tried to either seal away the keyblades into chains or destroy them to prevent Ansem from continueing his research. Clearly his research was dangerous, I mean he'd have no reason to quickly discontinue it if it wasn't. Not too mention he's always saying how it ruined his life and how he never should've started it, etc. It must've been dangerous/evil. I explained it all in the page long theory :rolleyes:

    2. LMAO! I speed typed this whole things in like two minutes, give me a break. :p
     
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