358/2 Days The 14th Member discussion thread.

Im just goin by what i have heard.

 

well


even if nomura did say it wasnt aqua(needs confirmation)....he wouldnt be lying because only her nobody could get into the org.

and reading that article gave me more info on somethings.


aqua's armor is also a lingering spirit as is terra's armor.

heartless can also retain human form(just like ansem).

aqua is the best choice for the 14th member.(thus far)

and well, the 14th member , has some connection to roxas(needs confirmation), and roxas looks like ven, and may have a connection to sora and roxas.

 

Right,but maybe that's not Aqua at all.
I thought it was a replica made by Vexen from the data of the armor,or maybe she's just a manifestation of Aqua spirit(Like Terra armor),almost everything is possible.

 

Hmmmm,
Possible and maybe inevitable.
But why does he need to make one?

 

Maybe because Aqua died or something.

 

Im not so sure its aqua.. think about it theres a good chance but.. i have a picture of the number 14 girl and i relise this. she looks more like namine tho we all no its not her. Aqua has dark skin and the hooded woman has light skin, also shes very small and aqua is her origional age +10 due to the fact all this happened 10 years ago. im not sure who it is but maby she has a forgotten or un charted conection to sora anyway im sure the new DS game will ensure all. I NO EVERY 1 THINKS ITS AQUA BECAUSE THEY ALL READ WIKI WIKI AM I NOT CORRECT. IT TRUE U OTTA BELEVE WHAT U HEAR ON THAT SITE BECAUSE ITSAN OFFICIAL SITE NO LIES ALLOWED, BUT THE SAID "POSSIBLELY AQUA" THO THE STRANGE THIG IS, HER ARMOUR! IN KH2 FM DURING A SCENE WITH XEMNAS IN THE CASTLE OBLIVION HE ENTERS A ROOM AND SAYS NICE TO SEE YOU "OLD FRIEND" AND HER ARMOUR IS THERE... SO MABY IT IS HER BUT THE GIL IN MY PIC LOOKS NOTHN LIKE HER

 

nobodies , dont necesarily look exactly like their somebodies, they resemble them.

and some nobodies have change in skin color, like xemnas.

and if she became a nobody, they wouldnt add 10+ years , because nobodies dont age.

and lastly, aqua looks roughly like 1 or 2 feet taller than ven(who probably is the same height as roxas.)

 

I think that the 14th member could be Namine. Now I know it sounds awkward but Sora's nobody Roxas got in the organization obviously because he can hold the keyblade. Kairi held the keyblade in KH2 so who says her nobody - Namine, can't hold it. Quote Reply.

 

Naahh... I think Namine could be the 14th member. I know it sounds awkward but Sora's nobody Roxas got in the organization obviously because he can summon the keyblade. Kairi used the keyblade in KH2 so what makes you think HERnobody - Namine, can't use it.

 

I think I read in Wikipedia that the fourteenth member is not Naminé. I just can't find the article anymore...
Why would the Organization have used her the way they did in CoM, if she were one of them? And I doubt that she would've wanted to join them after CoM because of the way they treated her.
Another thing,

Does she look anything like Naminé? The skin is way too dark, her body is the different shape...
And her name isn't an anagram of Kairi's with an X added, so unless she changed it and her appearance for some strange reason, it is very unlikely that she is the fourteenth member.

 

if yu look closely you can see that the 14th member doesnt have a dark skin tone, its because of the cloak that makes her look a bit dark.

but thanks for the pic.

 

Well, tecnically, Kairi can't summon the Keyblade, Riku gave her 1. So Naminé can't use a Keyblade. And Kairi and Naminé, also if they are "the same" they can't use the same powers: Naminé can change the memories of the people and Kairi can use (not summon) the Keyblade

 

Kairi can't summon a Keyblade, Riku gave her 1, so Naminé can't summon a Key. And they have different powers, so they are not like Sora and Roxas. Naminé can change people's memories and Kairi can use a Key

 

I'm pretty sure unless something weird happens, that Namine is definitely not the 14th member. Namine was held in Castle Oblivion and that is also apparently where she originally showed up. It doesn't make any sense for her to be the 14th member and she did not have any contact with Roxas until she met him in Twilight Town after CoM. She was held captive and after CoM she left with Riku and DiZ to help sort out Sora's head. So there really is no way in the span of time of Roxas's story that Namine could have been elsewhere to be the 14th member. She was also never an actual member of the Organization during her tenure at Castle Oblivion and instead was more a prisoner to the Organization instead, where they were at Castle Oblivion to do studies on memories.

So all in all, I'm like 99.9% sure that the female 14th member is definitely not Namine in any way possible.

Also, since there is a sticky on the 14th member above, I am going to have to merge this one since all of you wrote so much here and I hate for the info to get lost. Please though from now on post 14th member conversations there until the game comes out and more things can be said.

 

Hmm, good point, however, maybe happened something after CoM that we only see in 358/2 Days. Maybe the Organization discovered Naminé's secret on how to change people's memories and they changed her memories telling her that she was a member, and at the end of the story she repurchases her real memories.
However if the 14th member isn't Naminé, maybe could be Aqua's Nobody (if she has 1)

 

Namine is not the 14th Member.

 

First of all, I believe it says that Namine is a "fake" nobody made of data somewhere in either CoM or KH2. Second, I think it has already been confirmed by Nomura that it is not Namine.

It is most likely the shadow of the cloak.

Wikipedia is untrustworthy, but we all know it is not Namine anyhow.

A tip if you want to be respected here: Don't post in all caps, even for half of your post.

Wikipedia was never an "official site". Wiki is just an online encyclopedia. A normal encyclopedia isn't as in-depth as you could see in, say, a book completely about said topic.

Also, Wiki is untrustworthy. Anyone can edit it.

 

Everybody do age,you can see that Naminé got Taller from CoM to KH2.
The only characters that don't age are Disney's.

And yes,Naminé was just created in a special and weirrd way,nothing more than that.

 

You know what I just don't get. This all has to do with 358/2 days which is after CoM and before KH2. So in KH2 why did they call themselves Organization 13 if there just happens to be 14 members. Is this some kind of joke or what. I mean these threads are already confusing enough especially Birth By Sleep. Roxas doesn't remember anything. Like when Namine asks him, " Do you know what your true name is." Xemnas doesn't completely know that much of his past. Come on now why don't you just try using the damn pods even Namine could be useful. Namine is Kairi's nobody but what is their connection. Like Sora quotes in KH2 " What if all this is for nothing." The only Xemnas plan i know is he is using the room of sleep to bring up the Room of Awakening for memories. You know what who says this 14th member can't be Aqua. The black hood might cast a shadow over her making her a litle dark or who says she didn't just get a little tan like Xehanort did. Also how do you know she's short. You can't even see the rest of her body like her legs. We all know it ain't larxene cause that b***h is dead/de rezzed. Kairi I don't even know, i mean she could've been abducted and taken to organization thirteen for all I know. Then Namine could've brainwashed her making her think she was never there. Or you know what it could even be the new character we all come to know in BBS.