358/2 Days The 14th Member discussion thread.

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  1. Enigmatic XIV Merlin's Housekeeper

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    O_o; I thought Riku's nobody was Axel.
    Their eyes are the same, so is their attitude.
    Riku gave his heart to darkness in KH 1, becoming Xehanort's Heartless, but before that had a heartless form himself. Like Xehanort's heartless, couldn't Riku have kept his form?

    Though to argue my own point, Axel should have been able to weild keyblades if he was. And from sources, everyone in the organization but Roxas remembered who they were before they were nobodies.

    So I confused myself and wasted some space. On to XIV
    Girl? Sure
    Who is it? I bet someone Roxas ends up being close too seeing as she is a so called key element in 358/2. But I don't think we've met her before, nor do I believe she is Aqua or Aqua'a nobody. 358/2 is focused around Roxas story from when he joined Organization XIII, to when he left. Roxas must have met her during that time, and for the first time during that game. Therefore, she is a complete enigma that the only thing we have to go on is scans of her and what Namoura(sp?) says.

    Sorry if this double posts but I have to say something.
    Enix said they had 14 member's but kept their name 13 for a reason, why we don't know.
     
    Enigmatic XIV, Jun 13, 2008
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  2. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Maybe she dies or maybe she is kept as secret by Xemnas even now! Because that the tittle didn't change!
     
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  3. Hayabusa Venomous

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    I think Organization XIII didn't include the 14th member cause of heresy or something. Ya know, they wouldn't want to be affiliating a traitor with them.
     
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  4. Arch Mana Knight

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    What about the whole Castle Oblivion thing? Marluxia the leader of the whole rebellion thing. He was a traitor and yet they kept their name as XIII...Maybe number XIV was never innitiated or something...What if she isn't a nobody and is some kind of spy(sounds kinda stupid but it makes sense to me)? Then near the end of the game the rest of the organization finds out and Roxas/other member is sent to kill her. Then either she dies or she gets away and isn't seen again...or is erased from existance and memory...
     
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  5. Kaiionel Hollow Bastion Committee

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    That is possible--her being a spy, I mean. Since she isn't mentioned in any of the other games (as far as we know), maybe the Organization wanted to forget about her for some reason. Or maybe all memories of her were wiped because of who she was or something she did...there are endless possibilities here. I just get the feeling everybody did or wanted to forget about her.

    My sister and brother and I are just calling her Joeexa until we know what her real name is. XD
     
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  6. 00Roxas00 剛情のロクサス

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    A spy huh? Well that sounds lika possibility but i still go with the Aqua theory.
     
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  7. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Yeah me too!
     
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  8. Enigmatic XIV Merlin's Housekeeper

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    *itchs away form changing her name to that* XD
    I doubt she is a spy, Xemnas can obviously tell who is and isn't a nobody, being the strongest nobody.
    However, reviewing some theories, it could actually possibly be Aqua. Seeing as Xemnas goes a speaks to Aqua's armor directly in the Room of Sleep. Birth by Sleep and 358/2 will foreshadow the most for KH3(which obviously has to come out on PS3). That armor scene wasn't created without reason. It may just be her. INFACT, the reason they didn't change their name is because maybe Aqua was not like the rest of them. Its a little difficult to explain.

    Of course I'm not believeing much of what I say myself, theories are theories.
     
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  9. Arch Mana Knight

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    Well I doubt Xemnas would know anything. He isn't Darth Vader. He didn't know about the whole Marluxia getting people to rebel against him(if he did there would be no COM game most likely). Aqua...well she's 10 years before KH and number 14 is a new member entirely. Too young to match up with the timelines.
     
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  10. khmaniac101 Traverse Town Homebody

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    yea unless your nobody can be younger I doubt its aqua

    and also my theory is that ven and aqua die at the end of BBS (yet I still support venxaqua) and the organization wasn't formed till xehanort (terra?) was turned into a heartless and nobody and if it is terra than it would have had to been at least 9 years ago which rules out aqua unless the nobody can be younger but I'd say it was later or they would have made themselves known beforehand.
     
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  11. Arch Mana Knight

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    Hmmm...I'm just wondering what could she have done to be erased from the org. I think she was alive during COM(they didn't call themselves organization XIII 'till KH2...I think). She must have either done something worse than Marluxia, not have been innitiated, or wasn't what she seemed to be. Unless (insert completely new character here) took her/killed her and erased her from memory of the Org.
     
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  12. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Yeah I think you are right. In COM they called themselves just Organization!
     
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  13. Axelrific Banned

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    From what im certain, sounds weird but, she must've tried to seduced Roxas and Axel was jealous and he decided to make a "move".
     
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  14. Arch Mana Knight

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    That...actually makes sense. Although that is a little overused(bad girl seducing the good guy to get what they want). So...I think it's interesting that she is the only organization member that we've seen that doesn't have a magic cloak. We can actually SEE part of her face through the hood.
     
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  15. Axelrific Banned

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    And in the game's trailer she took of the part blocking the head but that cameo rapidly changed. But, expecting from Nomura he will just make 14 to seduce him to kill Xemnas.
     
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  16. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    We really don't know about that maybe Xemnas keeps her secret and who knows even now (I mean Sora's time) she might be still alive and that would make a nice new journey for Sora and his friends!
     
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  17. Shift Chaser

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    She was alive during COM(At least on the end).
    And maybe she become whole again that's why she was erased from the Org.
     
    Shift, Jun 21, 2008
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  18. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Hmmm... maybe! But how? Kingdom Hearts wasn't complete, that's what all the org members waited in KH2 so they could get their hearts back, so how she could do this?
     
    Sora_The_keyblademaster, Jun 22, 2008
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  19. Arch Mana Knight

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    Exactly what I thought. Plus if she went normal the Org. would be after her to find out how she did it.
     
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    Maybe she found her original self like Roxas and was still wearing a black coat,preventing the Org. from finding her.
     
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