358/2 Days The 14th Member discussion thread.

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX' started by kitty_mckechnie, Nov 16, 2007.

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  1. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Yeah but not forever because she never mentioned in KH2 so she maybe join the org. for a while or maybe Xemnas keeps her secret so she will come back in the next KH games!
     
  2. Xegreny Kingdom Keeper

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    Or, maybe she dies. >_>;;

    Since this takes place, before KH2 and all. :P
     
  3. Maka Albarn It's called love

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    Meh, I don't know really what to say about the fourteenth member. Just that I'm wondering why she isn't on Chain of Memories or #2.... it's kind of odd.:blink: And it makes you wonder what happened and stuff. I wish it would come out already! The suspense is intense!!! (Hey that rhymed... lol)
     
  4. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    Maybe if she will be a boss in 358/2 Days
     
  5. La Sofa ('_')-l3 No worries

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    But I thought they said the fourteenth member was a newly added one to the organization right? So that would at least explain why she isn't in in CoM and KH2 eh? Unless im wrong.
     
  6. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    She wasn't in KH:COM because she still might didn't the org.XIII! and she didn't appear in KH2 because she might kept secret or died in KH: 358/2 Days!
    But wait now why we always make the XIV member bad? Maybe she is a good person... nobody!
     
  7. La Sofa ('_')-l3 No worries

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    So your saying that she might have been in CoM and KH2 also? And Sora simply just didn't find out about her for a reason? If so, it could be. Theres just so little info on the member.

    But yeah that would be cool if the were a nobody that were on Sora's side for once.
     
  8. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    No I mean she wasn't in neither of KH:COM and KH2 and I am saying that she might be kept secret 'til now or joined the org.XIII in 358/2 Days and died in 358/2 Days!
     
  9. SeanyBoy Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I think that the 14th member is going to be Aqua's nobody. I mean, in that one cutscene that was only viewable in the final mix+, you see Xemnas going to the "Room of Sleep" and sit in that chair. Then you see him talking and next they show what appears to be Aqua's soldier suit from the Birth By Sleep video.

    Thats just my take on it. Nomura said it'll be explained in the organization game thats coming out so we shall see.
     
  10. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    WOW I didn't noticed that! When I saw it for first time I thought it was Terra's uniform! But you are right and then he says "Welcome back my old friend". But actually it's odd too just think of it the storyline of 358/2 Days was before KH2(FM)
     
  11. erkansilk King's Apprentice

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    he said old friend cuz xehanort is terra....and he gets his memories back from namine...
    or not im not sure;)and xehanort has the same memories like xemnas

    and i think that number 14 is aquas nobody cuz......then all knights would be in the org 13/14
    xemnas- terra?
    roxas- ven?
    aqua- 14?
     
  12. SeanyBoy Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Hm, I'm not too sure about that. In KH2 final mix, you're able to fight Terra. That experience with Terra is meant to get your mind thinking about him and his story (Birth By Sleep). Think back, remember in the first KH game (not the one America got, the later version. I dont know if it goes by final mix too) but in that version, Sora stumbles upon Xemnas (Of course, he's hooded so you can't see him plus we wouldnt know about him at that time anyway) and had to fight him. Its the same thing, basically. The secret fight with Xemnas in KH 1, and the secret fight with Terra in KH 2 were both thought up so we could spend out time anticipating the resolve of the next game to come.

    In KH2 final mix+, you can fight Terra. I don't believe he's Xemnas because, going by that instance, both he and Terra were both existing at the same time. So, it would be impossible for Xemnas to be Terra.

    If you ask me, I think Xemnas was, like the game said, Xehanort's nobody. If you look even closer, you can even see a pattern within the antagonists of the game.

    Kingdom Hearts 1 - Xehanort's Heartless (Self-proclaimed "Ansem")
    Kingdom Hearts 2 - Xehanort's Nobody (Xemnas)

    So, for the last installment of the KH series, I believe the antagonist will either be a new form of Xehanort or Xehanort himself (somehow still alive or something).

    For all we know about Terra, he could still be very much alive. He was in the KH game afterall. Now, whether they specified if he was a lingering spirit or just there at the time of Sora's arrival is unclear to me so I cant say anything on that.

    But I think something has happend to both Ven and Aqua, however. I believe Aqua was transformed into a heartless and probably killed. Along with that, her Nobody is probably the 14th member. Xemnas probably found her Nobody before the events of KH2 (So, during 358/2 Days) and gave her some kind of top secret mission which would explain her absence in Kingdom Hearts 2. Nomura stated in an interview that there's a reason Organization XIII didn't become Organization XIV so we'll know that soon I suppose.

    But if you ask me, I think the antagonists of the final game will be Xehanort in some form and/or the 14th member (whether Aqua's nobody or not)
     
  13. erkansilk King's Apprentice

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    no they dont exist at the same time.terras battle is in the past(sora use the portal like the balck-white world)
    and i said that xehanort is terra not xemnas
    xemnas is maybe terras nobody
    and remember the first xemnas form....it was a armored knight
     
  14. SeanyBoy Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Oh! Okay, then. I just misread you, then. But you know, that is something I have always been pondering about the fight with Xemnas and the armor suit. I'm not saying it's because he's apart of Terra (not saying I think your theory is wrong, because we are all just guessing at this point) but that is an interesting point, though. As for the time portal thing, I've never seen the whole clip before so I don't know about that but did they specify that it was a time portal in the clip?
     
  15. erkansilk King's Apprentice

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    thats right we are all just guessing
    but it makes fun:):):)
     
  16. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    It sure is!!!!!
     
  17. Dragon #13 Merlin's Housekeeper

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    I think the 14th member might be an original character. She isn't remembered by Roxas or mentioned or anything because she joined as a secret member to bring back the Organization if they were to fail. She would have to be a secret so Sora didn't come hunting her down or something like that( probaly the reason they weren't called Organization XIV). It's just a theory anyway.
     
  18. Insane_Squrriel Destiny Islands Resident

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    Actually, Nomura has stated that the Terra Battle is non-cannon.
     
  19. Fallout Gummi Ship Junkie

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    I think it was kinda stupid of Square Enix to reveal a fourteenth member. I mean, doesn't that ruin the whole title 'Organization XIII'?

    But, I hope the XIII member is cool or I'll be mad. =p
     
  20. Sora_The_keyblademaster King's Apprentice

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    It's actually XIV member XIII is 13! Maybe they did not ruined it Nomura would never say something to ruin the whole thing!
     
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