Kingdom Hearts II Strongest Organization members..whats your opinion?

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  1. Anti Axel Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Whats ur thought of the stongest member of organization 13 mines is Axel
     
  2. Oli Banned

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    This should be in Kingdom Hearts II dude.
    But to be on topic I would have to say Lexaeus is strongest, even though I think he is a ****** fighter.
     
  3. AxelChakrams Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Axel because of his awesome chakrams
     
  4. solarlunarxiii Moogle Assistant

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    Why, Marluxia of course!! Marluxia is just so...amazing
    (obsessive fan)

    He has pink hair, a reaper, and his element is FLOWERS!!! (Not plant. Flowerz).

    You can't be more epic.
     
  5. MadDoctorMaddie I'm a doctor, not a custom title!

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    Physically, Lexaeus, without a doubt.

    Axel? Nah, after the initial shock of having to fight him in the start of Kh2, he's ridiculously easy to beat.

    I think I'm gonna have to say Xemnas, he just refuses to die (there's what, five different forms?).
    He's got the advantege of being able to control other members weapons and elements, and he seems to have a lot of stamina.
    Plus, he's the only member with Demyx I had to fight more than once to beat.

    Demyx is a surprisingy tough fighter, but he relies more on tricks, rather than strength.
     
  6. .:Xigbar:. Twilight Town Denizen

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    Lexaeus is easily the stronges.
     
  7. Magick ~Meaner then my demons~

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    In terms of the strongest, in acting like they had a heart, I would say Axel. He reacted emotionally much of the time, and commented that it was Roxas who made him that way.

    With the strongest fighter, I would have to say either Luxord, Larxene or Saix. Larxene was heartless, and her lightning skills didn't make her any easier to beat. Luxord's time games made it hard to fight in terms of trying to figure out where he would hit next. Saix was a berserker, so as long as you stayed in the air, you were safe, but there wasn't an ability to stay in the air for a long period of time.
     
  8. Anti Axel Merlin's Housekeeper

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    umm not only axel is cool cause of his chakrams
    i mean he sacrificed himself but killed loads of nobodys thats strong
     
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    Too bad for most of you, Xemnas is officially the strongest organization member. He can overpower any character we've played as on a one-on-one fight.

    Xemnas>Sora/Mickey/Riku/Roxas.

    Then Roxas is the second strongest member...and that should be kind of obvious since...well...he and Sora have both been able to singlehandedly beat most of Organization XIII.

    Roxas beat Saix, Axel, Xion. Sora beat the members of Castle Oblivion by(mostly) himself.

    Xaldin is officially the third strongest member. ...He's scary.

    I would think that Xigbar is stronger than Axel. Axel would never pick a fight with him...I think.

    Axel and Marluxia...eh, they look about equal in power. And it even seemed like Axel was losing to Marluxia in a fight. But who knows who would have won?

    Larxene...well, she's fast. That's about it. She got her ass handed to her more than once.
     
  10. Anti Axel Merlin's Housekeeper

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    No uh Xemnas cant over power sora and riku they beat him in the end
     
  11. TwilightBlader Child of the Sun

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    Like Firion said Xemnas is the strongest. He isn't the leader for nothing

    Without Riku, Sora would have lost. It took both Riku and Sora to beat him and in the end both Riku and Sora came out injured (well maybe only Riku was injured). also wasn't it said Xemnas was the strongest character (even stronger than Sephiroth)?

    Physically strength is obviously Lexeaus though
     
  12. Arch Mana Knight

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    I said on one-on-one combat. Like Twilightblader said, Sora and Riku won only because they fought together.

    I don't think Sephiroth really counts. I know Xemnas is the strongest canon enemy right now but...hm. But I guess since this is the KH universe, Xemnas>Sephiroth.
     
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    In terms of gameplay, assuming you had all of the organization members fight one another..

    Twilight Xemnas Attacks frequently, has a wide array of attacks to choose from, and if he captures any of the organization members they will more than likely fail to escape. Unless they were capable of going invincible for a short period of time. (Saix and Lexaus would qualify for this.) But that's debatable now isn't it. His Desperation move is the dome of lasers which would deal a lot of damage and leave no room for error or escape.

    Berserk Saix is nearly unstoppable, and can barely be damaged while in Berserk mode. Considering you would need to knock him out with his own claymoure otherwise.. you'd have to wait out the berserk mode before you could do any serious damage. When he's not in berserk mode... well.. he sucks.

    Xigbar had the ability to warp around and attack from all sorts of crazy angles. None of the organization members can really block, except for Xigbar who casts Aero in the form of a spherical shield and Vexen I guess. Otherwise, you would need to beast through the attacks like... Saix or Lexaus! Those lasers add up, and chances are most organization members wouldn't be hitting him half as much as he's hitting them. Especially since he's on the ceiling and very few members have attacks that reach that high.

    Speaking of Shield, Xaldin wouldn't be able to be damaged unless he too were to be canceled out by another character's attack. Seeing as how the only time this shield is lost is when he's deflected. That would mean really good timing, or.. invulnerability!! I'm seeing a trend here! Even if you got past the shield, his attacks are quick and relentless and we all know that means a quick end.

    Oh wait! Vexen has a shield! A pathetic one! Made of Ice... that breaks. But regardless you still have to break it before you can damage him. His freezie pop storm thing would be a ******* since you have to break free with a reaction command I think. Otherwise he'd just run away and be a nuisance with his popsicle spires.

    Lexaus. Invincibility that only breaks if you block his most basic attack. Good luck getting close enough to him, let alone time the attack right to overpower him. And even then, the time for which he's vulnerable is pathetic. The only disadvantage to his unwavering stance is that he CAN still be damaged regardless of how powerful his aura is, Unlike Saix who becomes literally unstoppable so long as he's throwing a fit.

    Zexion throws his enemies into a magical book work of hell and despair. While maybe a cheap tactic, it's pretty smart, because all the books are in the air, which like Xigbar means the Organization members have to be able to hit things in the air like a boss. Oh, and I think you need to perform a reaction command to leave the book world so you can actually beat him. Tough cookies guys, Unless Reaction commands are part of the deal, I think Zexion might've just won.

    And if Reaction commands are usable by Organization members, than Saix went from one of the most powerful to one of the weakest. Because he's pathetic without his Moon rayz.

    Axel is actually quite the beast with his flame ring. The oven that everyone would probably be sitting in would eat away at the Organization's health slowly but surely, and will likely wear them out long before they have thier go with Axel. Axel is also one of the few characters with range. Albeit not that much. Oh, and most Organization members like to use big attacks, which Axel's flame wall will make quick work of. Unless it's canceled out (reaction commands), the character can attack without flinching (Saix, Lexaus) or you can magically warp out of the flame ring (Xigbar, Xemnas, Xaldin, Marluxia, or Larxene.. maybe Roxas.) Axel's got you cornered.

    Demyx is all about range and wide radius. He can play keep away and of course summon all those water people to mess with you. Most organization members won't be able to kill them all in time, even with thier desperation moves.. Even Zexion who would win simply because he couldn't be killed would lose by technicality. Demyx is top dog me thinks now unless his fellow members pull out thier Desperation Moves early.

    Luxord controls time, and has no health bar, but it's simply a matter of dealing more damage and waiting it out. As long as the organization can outlast his timebar, then they shall win. They'll probably lose the game though because they couldn't play it if they wanted to. But once again, that's debatable if reaction commands are viable.

    Larxene's a straight up witch. She teleports, and hits you with thunder bolts In other words she strikes quick, and evades quicker. Probably Xigbar's worst nightmare simply because she's quicker than him. She hardly leaves opening for attacks, and you would need to be quick to defeat her. I don't think many organization members can compare to her speed. Her biggest weakness is her lack of health and defense. Against someone like Axel who can drain her health, or someone who can hit with explosive attacks (Lexaus, Saix, or Demyx..)

    Marluxia has the magical doom counter. Which is relative to the level of the particular organization member. Since we can't determine that, the effectiveness of this attack is speculative. Otherwise, the net of thorns is a good range move, and the Death pits would effectively make quick work of anyone who steps within them. Seeing as how that would probably be quite frequent given each character's strategies, it would all come down to what makes said characters flinch.. because regardless they're going to get seriously hurt if they step in the black pits of despair. He would only be good if the Organization members had a level counter.. and if he attacked frequently enough to make this run out.

    Roxas is invincable as a ball of light, and when performing his DM. But otherwise he's all about aggressively attacking his foes, and spamming horizontally challenged laser beams. He would be good at dishing it out, and wouldn't leave much room to recieve either. He's actually rather balanced, and I'm puzzled as to what his weakness is.

    My conclusion is first and foremost that if reaction commands are universally viable, it can change the entire course of the fight. Secondly, that anyone with an aura of invincibility is given the advantage of relentless attacking with little room for opening, because of this, thier only disadvantage is to characters with distance or who are quick enough to evade these tactics.

    I try to see these fights without the player's input, so to say one character is better than the other because of how difficult they were for Sora and the player is simply ridiculous I think.
     
  14. Anti Axel Merlin's Housekeeper

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    Real quick if it wasnt kh world
    Sephiroth would murder xemnas cause he has more power
    and has heartless wangel and super nova stuff like that
     
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    [Speaking of Shield, Xaldin wouldn't be able to be damaged unless he too were to be canceled out by another character's attack. Seeing as how the only time this shield is lost is when he's deflected. That would mean really good timing, or.. invulnerability!! I'm seeing a trend here! Even if you got past the shield, his attacks are quick and relentless and we all know that means a quick end.]


    did i read this right?
    Xaldin has a shield?
    i don't think so.
     
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    Why is this in the KHII section wouldnt thi be better suited for the kh:days section?

    Anyway For muscle strength lexaeus, total strength Axel...All in all Axel is better IMO, just remember Lexaeus lost to riku and both sora and riku agrted sora is stronger...Axel failed to kill sora.

    And he Xaldin having a sheild He's either talking about Vexen or when Xaldin glows blue (uses his limit) hes untouchable pretty much so that may be it.
     
  17. TwilightBlader Child of the Sun

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    Didn't Lexeaus win against Riku but then Ansem took over and pwned Lexeaus

    Also I don't see why Axel is the strongest
     
  18. leon47 Traverse Town Homebody

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    I think Xemnas he is the leader after all and it took sora and riku to defeat him so any member was fighting him they would get there asses kicked axels flame ring would not work since Xemnas can float
     
  19. keyblademaster_wannabe+ Traverse Town Homebody

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    Marluxia duh! Why did you think i got the nickname "Graceful Assassin"?
     
  20. No.III Xaldin Merlin's Housekeeper

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    i still like to play with myself.
    (figuratively, not literaly)
     
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