Sticks and Stones may brake my bones, but your words will never hurt me??

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  1. Bond of Flame I'm an alien

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    I think it's actually accurate, but it depends on what's being said to you.
     
  2. Rainbow~Monkey Gummi Ship Junkie

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  3. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    Pulling the God card as usual.
    Anyway, I stick to my point that words shouldn't hurt or offend in almost all cases.

    Example 1:
    I laugh in the faces of paedophilia, poverty, the Holocaust, racism, teenage subcultures, ignorance, incest, 9/11, death, school shootings, AIDS patients and everything between. I'm sure I crack up one hell of a lot more than some sour bag of serious who gets offended by 2/3 of what he sees on the news. :D

    Example 2:
    I've never taken trash talk about my appearance or taste in music or whatever seriously. I take criticism to heart and know how to sieve useful critique away from mere bashing

    Example 3:
    Brutal honesty and sarcasm. Supposed to hurt their recipients from time to time.
    Personally I don't give a rat's ass. It's called brutal honesty for a reason. If you can prove them wrong, then go ahead. If you cannot, then your only option is to suck it up. You have by no means the right to be hurt as long as your conversation partner's sharp tongue is speaking the truth.

    Exception:
    Gossip. People telling lies behind your back up to the point that people will begin treating you differently because of it. In this case, words can hinder you. Still, people ******ed enough to believe everything they hear aren't a big loss anyway.
     
  4. childofturin Why?

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    Quoted for truth. Bolded for absolute frikken WIN.

    I agree with everything here. And with gossip, if someone seriously wants to believe someone else about something you did/said/whatever, without even listening to your explanation, they don't deserve to talk to you. A person like that is, in my mind, lower than garbage.
     
  5. Rainbow~Monkey Gummi Ship Junkie

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    It doesn't matter if words don't hurt you but they can hurt other people that are more sensitive.
     
  6. Yukichin Traverse Town Homebody

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    I think this phrase is utter bull. Hell, I myself even tell people to ignore it when things happen, but... the fact is, it's not always that easy. Even if you try your absolute hardest to ignore hurtful things, that may not always happen.
     
  7. kitty_has_claws246 Traverse Town Homebody

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    I think any pain of any kind that you run into in life can effect you. Emotional and physical pain hurts, that's a part of life. Sticks and stones I feel was created as a mantra of sorts to help with the pain. Kind of like a Neosporin and band aid for emotional hurts.

    Everyone has a different level of sensitivity. Some people seem to be able to deal with blow after blow of verbal abuse and not have any reaction. Meanwhile, other people can hear some off handed remark and end up in near tears.

    My best advice on how to deal with mean words would be to deep breaths, distraction (listening to music is gold when it comes to this, but if you can't then try to think about some random thing), or simply smile, even if you feel like crud, it helps. =D

    Good Luck!
     
  8. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    What I'm trying to say is that those people have no right to be more sensitive. Because every ****-for-brains can think and realise what childofturin and I have realised long ago. :)
     
  9. Rainbow~Monkey Gummi Ship Junkie

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    People can't control how sensitive they are, its a trait they have, they are born like that. They do have a right, I understand how people just ignore mean things but for some people it's hard, and it's not their fault they are hurt by words because they can hurt people, maybe not you, but words are very powerful to other people. I get ridicule all the time and I'm able to take most of it without crying now, but some times I cry because it does hurt people. Some people are more sensitive than others its not their fault. Words do hurt, they may not hurt you because you handle those kind of situations maturely or you don't let the words get to you, but that doesn't mean you can go around saying "deal with it" to other people that are sensitive.
     
  10. childofturin Why?

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    I used to get mad at the drop of a hat. If someone even LOOKED at me funny, I would start shouting. Now, I hardly get mad at all (except at my uber-laggy computer, but that's another story). I was not "born sensitive", I was born with ADD/Asperger's Syndrome. But I learned to deal with it and control it. If I can control a disease that has no cure, other, perfectly healthy people can certainly control how they act when someone says something. IT'S JUST WORDS. Get over it.
     
  11. Rainbow~Monkey Gummi Ship Junkie

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    Maybe everyone's is not at strong as you, ever think of that? Even if you weren't born sensitive, or people are, we are all different, some people are more emotional about things than you are. you don't let words get to you, good for you. Other people can't handle that kid of stuff, but most times they eventually learn to ignore mean things. Just because you can handle stuff, doesn't mean other people can, so just give it a rest please.
     
  12. childofturin Why?

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    What I'm saying, though, is that I am not controlling an anger that stems solely from me. The anger that I repress and control is coming from a genetic disease on the Autism spectrum, which makes it doubly hard to control, since my Asperger's tends to block all my efforts at self-control. Right now, for instance, I should be reading several articles for a huge test tomorrow, but can't seem to make myself do it. And yet, I can avoid being angry. In earlier years, I would be shouting my head off at you for saying what you just said. Therefore, if I can control my anger with so many difficulties inherent in doing so, any healthy person should be able to control their emotions equally well. They just need to grow some backbone and do it.

    And with that, I'm off to bed. I can barely keep my eyes open, and I certainly can't argue very well.
     
  13. Rainbow~Monkey Gummi Ship Junkie

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    i am sorry. i didnt know we were "arguing". anyways, i understand what you are saying now. Good for you controlling your emotions, but there are still people who cannot do what you can, you should be proud but you shouldnt expect everyone to be as good as you. i know you are saying if you can do all that, than anyone can but it doesnt work that way.
     
  14. Styx That's me inside your head.

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    I don't buy the "they're just not strong enough" bullshit.
    You said yourself that you're stronger than you used to be. You're living proof of what you're trying to disprove. The same goes for me and childofturin. Everyone can grow a spine when they try hard enough. I never said it was easy.

    Styx and stones will break your bones but words will only hurt those who would rather drown in self-pity than actually change something about themselves.
     
  15. childofturin Why?

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    I meant argue in the febate sense. I was arguing my case.

    I see what you did there! :D

    And thank you for basically proving my point.
     
  16. Tootsie coquí

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    It depends on what kind of person you are too.

    If you're going to let those words hurt you then that probably means you're a self-conscious person who is afraid of what other people would say and rather weep about what those people said.In some cases,words might not hurt some people but those words kind of stay with them and in the worst moments in their life,they remember them.
     
  17. TheMagicalMisterMistoffelees Professional Crazy

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    Words can be used as weapons, and people will use them as such. I admit that I have before, and I excelled at it, though I don't mean to say that I am proud of that.
     
  18. Hayabusa Venomous

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    Sticks and stones start fights.

    Words start wars.
     
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    Quoted for truth. B| Although...things like killing someone important can also start a war. *Cough*PartofwhyaWorldWarstarted*cough*

    Words can hurt.

    Let's say...you're married. One day you're doing your own thing and you overhear a bunch of guys talking about how they had some fun one night with someone and they mention a name. Then you find out it's your wife and she did it of her own free will and...yeah...

    Odd example but some things just hurt if you hear them. It depends on the person. Some people really just aren't strong enough to handle it. It's true. Some people can get over it and get stronger...and others can't. It's something that's hard to understand but things happen like that.
     
  20. Rainbow~Monkey Gummi Ship Junkie

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    i didnt say that they cant grow stronger, i said some people will always take things literally and get hurt by words.
     
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