358/2 Days -SPOLIER- Soo...I heard Organization XIII liked twister

That is true, but it is ironic since Zexion doesn't like to get his hands dirty that in the manga he is doing chores and stuff. Comical stuff really, but being basement members that is what the higher ones issued to them. lol. Even though they are the senior members that were in control of things before of their arrival. The twister thing is kind of hard to judge since it is only a preview for all we know he could of lost a bet to Luxord and that could of been his punishment. *shrugs*

I have the manga and I don't see Normura's name written anywhere on them. Which is very unusal. That is hard to speculate. If it is true that Nomura gave permission and allowed Shiro Amano to do these kind of 'crack stuff' to his characters to begin with, then supposely he has no problem with it. Or secretly wanted to make them more comical than in the game. In the manga he has his chance to do this and oversees the writer, but he was the one who has to approve of it. So in a way he is responsible.


Using his imagination or could it be Nomura's wierd imagination as well. Not judging him, but I think you might know what I mean by that because of a certain member in the new game. In this prospective, It was almost like go ahead and see what else you can do. Let's make them do something rather than sit around and be bored. It very well contradicted and damn right confusing, but at least it is entertaining. At some points I do see some of the characters doing some kind of things. The dancing and sort or whatever. Demyx, Axel maybe Roxas and etc. The laid back members. Doesn't matter to me though. It kind of broadens character development and have whoever talk to someone that Nomura avoids that character to speak to in a game. Maybe the manga also draws a message in some kind of way besides of fandom or populariy.

I actually disagree with that. It wouldn't make sense if someone could sleep without getting hungry or so forth. I expect they do sleep, eat and take care of other things since they would need energy to do their missions. Or even work out since we seen some of the buffer nobodies and then it is not like their muscle mass would break down unless they are affected or not? They maybe nobody, but they still have a human anatomy. Just one thing is missing and that is a heart. The one thing they need to be whole again and exist fully. They are non aging nobody humanoids neither living or dead, but in between. They would find it necessary with food and drink since they would naturally go by the memories of their somebody so common sense would tell them that they need to sustain energy. Just because it doesn't show them eat doesn't mean they don't. It is kind of like saying they don't have pens, paper, tape, envelopes. Which in fact they do. Otherwise we wouldn't see a message posted on the window saying Day Off Today in the lounge. We don't even get to see which room they supply it either. So this proves that they do have certain things, but they aren't explored and is left to our imagination. Or another example other shows, anime, etc. They don't alway show characters eat or do their daily ritual, why because there is need and no one would want to see that. If they do add it, only for comical purposes to make fun of characters.

Now for the novel like I said I can't judge it because I have only seen some translated parts, but in a way it seems broken up. Characters flipping around in different areas. Doesn't fit right with me. I like both sides of either thing. If I actually have time to read it without scouring for webpages to find it I might see it more real or true.

 

With Demyx. Now that is some fanservice since I've ever seen one. The yaoi girls must be exploding with yowls of glee.

And another one who sees the light.

Then again, Repliku, you were always practical =P.

Are you actually trying to prove the manga is canon? It isn't. Everyone knows this. I don't see why is it so hard to take this fact in. Zexion does not do half the stuff he commits there in the game. It distorts his personality. He's different. And considering he appears as if he does not mind playing the game, I doubt it's a bet. Let alone Xaldin actually sitting there and being a part of it by having the spinner when we know he wouldn't for the nonexistent life of him be caught in that mess. That's barely even scratching the surface with what Shiro did to Marluxia and everyone else.

I can't believe you're actually even arguing this.

The only reason I thought, which is they keyword, that Nomura had something to do with the manga, it's because I read it in a website where in the description it had Nomura's name inserted. But I should have known better, as most of the stuff is written by a person, who perhaps didn't have much information in the first place. Questionable to begin with. If Nomura isn't credited, then he does have nothing to do with it officially. It makes sense with his interview too, with the way he kind of distanced himself from it, and called it the other writers' creations. He just gives permission and oversees it to make certain nothing gets out of hand.

And of course he's not going to refuse them, just because it's comedic. There isn't anything wrong with someone making an adaption of something from his point of view, and who loves doing them, probably. Nomura just knows that it has nothing to do with the game except the name, characters, and basic plot elements in a crack summary of the series.

Doubtful it's Nomura. He isn't that crazy, nor would he be able to come up with all the stuff that has appeared in the manga. If that was the case, the game would've been very, very very different, with a change of atmosphere, wouldn't you think? Xion is another story. It was stupid, but they needed something to drag over in the Days plotline. The whole, better than sit and be bored was something that none of the Organization members even complained about. Larxene was fine just relaxing, Demyx was alright playing his Sitar in the lounge. Saix was doing his job emotionless as ever. And if they do something, I really don't think it's going to be Twister, lawl. This is merely a person's imagination appearing on his work. I don't think you also get that this "character development" is by someone else. Not the creator. Not anyone working for the company. Not anyone working on the games. But someone else. How do you even think or take those contrasting personalities as those of the real characters of the games and their development as fact or true, it's...it's like...I don't even understand your reasoning. Nomura did give the go ahead for Shiro Amano to create what he wanted. That doesn't mean the ideas are from Nomura himself. All Shiro does is take the information and plot of the games that he is knowledgeable of, and does his own rendition of it with obvious contradictions and changes. Which...

Isn't canon.

It needs to be repeated.

Isn't canon.

You're talking about Nobodies here. We barely even know their anatomy or what their core is. For all you know, all they need is sleep to regain their energy. It seems that they can eat, if they want to be social and it was an activity, or if they have this fetish that comes from their memories, but they don't really need to. If you want to take things into reality so much, normally, a whole year of unhealthy ice cream consumption will inevitably make you fatally sick, or gain diabetes. And it isn't much of a good diet, I'd say. You're also talking about a universe where hearts of feelings are floating pink things that go up into the sky and into some big Kingdom Hearts. They are not humans. They don't age. They fade away in a cloud of darkness and wisps. They probably do have organs, but we don't know if the switch when their body and soul were discarded made their skin be a bit weaker than normal, or if anything was altered. Said by the Ansem Reports. We have no idea if they had reverted to a sort of odd component and basis. You have to keep in mind that they are simply humanoid, and their Hearts were strong enough to retain some human form and appearance. For all you know, they could easily, and can become, judging by Xemnas's threat, Dusks. And what can you do to explain that one? And the anime comparison is useless, considering that all of them have some form of food and daily life. And they are humans. I have yet to see one where they don't eat or show certain things. Even Pokémon has its moments.

Don't tell this "proves" anything until it is fact. Because it's just as much speculation as any next theory.

The fact that you doubt the novel who is written by someone who works for Nomura and the company, and was the scenario writer for Days, saying it seems "broken up" (like the other isn't full of pure crack), to the manga by some dude that likes to make his works off of a game series, says enough. At least the novels have something called realism and don't butcher the characters until you can't recognize them or question how in the world would they ever do that. And fill in way more gaps. Granted, it's been translated by fans. But it's needless to say they know their stuff. And some are ones that work to translate the interview and information, along with the scenes.

So, really...

The manga is what it is as long as you don't connect or tie it in with the real games.

 

Normura however, does have adaption to the new 358/2 days manga.

 

It's true. I broke out into a huge grin when I saw that.

Not only is it hilarious, but it proves that maybe the fanfics aren't too far off...
Plus, they have great chemistry together.

Cough.
Moving on.


As for *TwilightNight* saying the manga isn't canon... A majority isn't, sure. But that's being discriminating towards the manga. The healthiest way to look at KH canon is a well-balanced mix of both the games and the manga.

Did Nomura say Zexion doesn't play Twister with Demyx? No.
Nomura must accept it on some level because the manga exists. There's no telling what goes on behind the scenes, and that's why the manga(and fanfiction) exist. It's to expand the canon, not disregard it.
And yes, I know that some things in the manga are changed from the game. But the game has a say-so before all else in canon.
But the behind the scenes stuff? Maybe there is some truth to it.