358/2 Days -SPOLIER- Soo...I heard Organization XIII liked twister

-SPOLIER- Manga Preview - Many lulz

So the previews for the DAYS manga got released and I just could not get over THIS image:



why yes that is Zexion and Demyx...playing twister!! This manga is looking VERY promising!

[ and yes I am aware there is a manga and novel section but as this is Days I figured it would be relevant for the threads interest]

 

sweetness! i wonder how good they r at that game...

 

Oh wow, that is epic. Nice find. xD

 

Roxas and Axel should play too. :D

 

That's from the manga? I always thought the organization was stoic....I guess the Fan-fics aren't as far-fetched as we thought. I'm liking that...but, zexion? That is kinda strange.

 

That's awesome! :Awesome:

 

The manga is a summary of the game with a bunch of comedy, changes, and full of complete and utter crack. It's basically fanfiction officially published.

In other words, not canon, so don't take anything in there seriously ^o^.

Games first amongst everything else.

 

Not really. They keep some things with the same concept and if not they add to it. Yes there is comedy, but it still adds more characteration of the characters. It is its only canon form....

I have seen the japanese manga and some things have gotten into the novel such as the interference with Saix heading off Axel who had Kairi, but poor Axel ends up getting owned by a Berseker.....

I liked the idea of the new game becoming a manga and I have a feeling with the Twister thing that Roxas was out as he looks disappointed and Axel might have as well as he seems to be pouting. Of course there is the chip loving Xalin. LOL. By the way the rest of the organization are in the manga as well.

 

roxas seems completely baffled by it XD

 

...you forgot to mention Saix spinning the spinner. that's an important part of the game too.

 

Neh? Xaldin's the one spinning the spinner XD

 

That is Xaldin not Saix.

 

Listen...

The manga is not canon. I don't know how many times I'm going to say this. It completely deviates from the real plot of the games (Repliku surviving, Xaldin being killed by Vexen clones when he's like, the third strongest Organization officially, etc.), and there is so many crack pot things in it that you can't expect for it to be fact. What characterization? Zexion playing Twister? Nerdy, keeps to himself, serious, polite, very reserved, book smart, Zexion? Xaldin actually in charge of the spinner, when in reality, he'll probably throw a lance at the idea of it? The Organization do nothing in the lounge except sit, chill, or wait on missions in the actual reality of things. If you mix the manga with the actual games, you'll actually get confusion just like Breakeven was suffering from until I told him not to take that adaptation seriously.

The manga is meant to go at it looking for nothing short of serious things that the Organization does. The manga has its own canon universe, and it's not tied to the games as one might think they are. Of course, there are certain things gotten from said game, like what you mentioned, Axel getting owned and all, but that's the basic plot points. We already knew Saïx had Kairi, and what was missing was how she escaped from Axel then. I did say summary. But the actions and some of the things that take place other than the basis is fabricated.

In fact, I'm just going to post the recent question and Nomura's answer of an interview, cause I'm getting tired of explaining it to you. And it seems you won't take it unless it's from the big man's mouth. The link has spoilers, obviously, so if no one wants to click:

http://heartstation.org/?p=1391

As I said, the only thing I'll take into consideration is the KH2 manga, which Nomura is listed in there, so I'm guessing he directed some things on what should have been in KH2 and told Shiro to add certain stuff in. And the Novels, that, while it may contradict the game sometimes, it's written by one of the scenario writers on Days. So I tend to think she would know more about it than anyone else as she works on the inside.

Otherwise, the manga is crack and is another writer's imagination, opinion, and vision.

 

@ TwilightNight

I have to agree with you there. I see the novels being far more canon than the manga...as you said the Manga is in a canon universe of it's own, but it has in the past, filled in some major blank areas that the game has left out, so in a way it does have some small canon points.

In the end though, the manga is authorized by Noruma to prevent anything too far-fetched from appearing...but still the idea of people without hearts playing twister, is most comical XD

What can we say, SquareEnix knows how to play towards the fans interests

 

As said, I think that's more on the KHII Manga, if anything. Which I believe Nomura put a large direction on than usual with past works. Probably to make up for the lack of what he actually put in the actual game. I, at least, expect Shiro Amano to know what the hell is going on with the series so he won't go that far into deviating from it as much as he has done. So, I take liberty with that. I mentioned that it does take basic plot points, but we don't really know how much of those "fills" that make up the blank areas are actually true. Or how much it changed. And there's a contrast and difference in the characters as well. For example, Kairi is much more nicer and more open, shows care for others than in the actual game itself presented. Zexion plays Twister. That should explain enough. The manga even contradicts the novels too, sometimes. Especially the recent KHII chapters 34 and 35.

Spoiler

Like, Saix not wanting to kill his old friend.

And we all know that in the novels, and in the game, he really had no qualms, or self-thought, about that. The only thing that came close to him hesitating in the novels, was where he questioned how Axel got a heart. This is what I mean when I say just how much of those blank areas that the manga provides are canon. Does Saïx not wanting to kill Axel work into what he was thinking or doing in the behind the scenes, and also in Days? Sure.

Is it what actually happened?

:/

Again, some scenes don't even happen in both games and novels.

That's why it's no use to take the manga seriously, despite that it has its moments. You have to look at it with that perspective, or else, you'll get confused and lost. Or even question what's real or not, which shouldn't occur. It's an enjoyable read and adaptation, comedy and it's crack. It's good to comment on, you can talk about it, and what you wish was in the game. But it changes plenty things that just clash with a lot. Shiro Amano is basically doing his own interpretation of a official game series. And, which he has permission to.

That's why, the games are always first and foremost.

 

Omg. I just lol'd so hard.
Reminds me of the soda and buckets of chicken that larxene and marluxia had in chain of memories vol.2
Ahh man, i felt like i could relate to them after that.

 

The link is broken.

It was misunderstood. I said canon as in its own thing kind of like its own canon world. I didn't say yes it is canon and that it really happened. I know that they contradict themselves, but so do many other anime or video games that are adapted into a manga. It is purposely done by the writers on purpose. Things get changed a lot, but that is why it is so interesting. Crack or not it shows characterization of characters so that people don't get bored with the same old thing. Another reason why people like to buy manga because parts of it have nothing to do with the story.


In a way the Manga KH 2 follows the same guides with the comedy stuff as well. It was what I was discussing. I haven't mentioned about the new one yet. I don't know much about, but have seen a few previews of it. Things get changed a lot, but that is why it is so interesting. It is entertaining. Some people wouldn't find it as crack, but hilarious. People are going to be confused anyway and believe that is how the difference and contrast of the characters would act than in the games. It sticks to them and most likely they would protray the characters like that. Reminds me of almost like a fan art, fan comics or fanfiction thing going around in their perspective. There is no harm on in it especially if the characters they want to see interact with the others, like they should of in the game. Nomura tries to make up for it I guess.....

I know that it wouldn't happen, but there is no telling that the creator couldn't have intentional wanted some parts in the games that were in the manga. In the games the organization have a big castle and not all the rooms are accessible to get into so there is no telling what they have behind doors. Possibly a kitchen. We just know they have bed rooms and a graveyard and other plain rooms and another part of the castle have pod rooms as well.
In 358/2days in the lounge the organization, sit, chill, talk among themselves, and wait around, but they do sleep. Just because it shows a couple of rooms doesn't mean the rest don't rest as well. It was even stated in the novel that they rest by Xalidin speaking to Demyx about them needing rest. They probably eat too, besides the main organization characters that sit on the clock tower.

The novels I have no opinion on some of them since I have only seen a few chucks of it translated where I can find them. But 358/2 days has a novel coming out as well. I don't believe everything in the novels happened in the KH universe, but I like to think outside of the box.

Either way it is good information that people have more knowledgable information than I do.

 

The manga makes a lot of changes to what happens in the games, they add a lot more culture references and such so I wouldn't take it seriously as a part of the actual Days game itself. I do admit that this is pretty funny though.

 

The thing is, I haven't really seen people even take the characterization, the different characterization, into consideration as much as everything else. Including how much they aren't the same people when compared to the actual game. Changed personalities, changed attitudes. Or slightly distorted. They are either more gruffer, more meaner. Or the utter opposite of what they are known for. Even if they like it, the fanfiction writers either follow the game, because that's what's true in the end. Or, the majority, follow their own idea of what the characters could be evolved to for dimension. Zexion, for example, all of what I've read about him follows his real individuality. Not someone that would actually play Twister. Or do chores that's on a wheel. Unless it was crack fanfiction. It's the same with the setting and other add-ins too, like Nomura Fried chicken, or chips, or actual real word games, or music, or whatever is present. Nobody gives it any thought. Because it isn't meant to be serious. Truthfully, I have YET to see any kind of person that actually takes the manga and the revision of the characters from it as fact, when it is not canon. Or why add it to the existing character when it is not canon as well. They'll be way off sometimes. If you're doing some manga fanfiction of it that takes place in its universe, okay. You're taking it from there, and you're doing the characterization that it shows.

But for the actual series? So far, as I aforementioned, fanfiction writers have followed what is shown in the games. Or novels, depending how much you're willing to portray from there. The ones who don't are the ones who haven't played it and read the manga only. Which is rare as heck. Be aware that they would soon be corrected if they ever come into a forum for questions, or be inquired as to why the characters are so off based.

And as I posted, Nomura already said himself that the question shouldn't come up, at least with him, and that it's the writers' ideas and what they want to do. Not his. He just gives permission and overlooks it somewhat. I'm sure once Shiro Amano got the information needed about the games, and some basic plot elements, he created his own version. It's not even positive that Nomura had his hand on the KH2 manga other than making certain that nothing goes out of whack and telling basic information about the plot and events. I just know that his name is listed (or maybe it had always been there in the whole manga series, and this time, one actually bothered to put it in the description when searching for it), whether it's to give him credit for the character designs or something else. And he even says that it contradicts. I don't know why anyone want to base their characters off of something that contradicts as the manga does.

We never were able to properly explore the castle because Sora didn't need to. Which is why now that we got Days, we get a hint of more places since Roxas lives there. If the Organization was meant to eat, they would have shown it. Or if they had a kitchen, they would have shown it. They obviously didn't mind presenting them sleeping, or their rooms as we got more information now that we actually see the castle interior. Or them going hungry and eating chips, and Nomura Fried Chicken >.>. Whatever the case, it's mostly irrelevant, because if the games don't show it, then it doesn't exist. Period.

I don't know know whether you actually take the manga more for characterization and other farfetched stuff that's in there, than the novel or not. If that's what you are trying to say. Considering one is written by someone on the inside, and has more credibility and trust (novel), rather than someone that doesn't work for SE at all or helps with the games. Yet, they definitely don't constitute the nonsense into the character portrayal. If they do, it's also rare as heck.

The manga is for fun with some plot points and extras. Nothing more, nothing less.

YOU SEE THE LIGHT!

 

Ungh, I'm sad and yet got a chuckle out of that. The manga once again defaces the Organization, making them look ridiculous and out of character. I can't help but find it amusing but at the same time, the manga is not in the least bit canon to the actual stuff so other than getting a chuckle out of how they picture the characters in a manner that is not authentic, I really have mixed feelings about the manga for KH in general. I still have annoyances over Repliku's weirdness ending, the Vexen clones in com and in kh2, the chore wheel, the obsession with pickles, and other such nonsense. Some things were funny. Others were just wrong. I can see why some people like them but I can not ever see Zexion playing Twister like that.