Kingdom Hearts II Something Newly Discovered

Discussion in 'Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX' started by JustANobody, Jul 18, 2007.

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  1. KATACHI IS KING!! Hollow Bastion Committee

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    this is a very intresting theory. it makes me think into the game so much harder.
     
  2. C This silence is mine

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    Yeah it is pretty amazing
     
  3. JustANobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    Oh Lawd, it's been a loong time.

    Anyway, I have returned on my travels! .....of high school. xD

    I've been reading through a few old posts in this board, and I've been thinking yet again. (Oh,noez)

    The first quote from the first game still bugs me. "I've been having these weird thoughts lately. Like, is any of this for real, or not?"

    I know I already stated my theory for it, but it still keeps poking at something in my brain. Why would Sora say that? Does he think this is all a dream?

    Or maybe Ven thinks he is in an after-life of somesort?

    Ven rested in Sora's Heart since he was born, and probably only reappeared shortly before the Heartless came because he sensed the approaching danger. Remember how I explained how, when the Keyblade first showed up, it went to Sora because of Ven?

    I'm starting to think that it wasn't an easy thing.

    The Keyblade first went to Riku, or at least should have, because of the strength of his Heart; strength, with the help of a bit of Darkness. Ven struggled to get it back, not only to protect the worlds from the danger that would be Riku, but also because he has seen this before: A Keyblade Master, corrupt by Darkness, destroying everything he desires.

    Then later, after meeting Riku again in Hallow Bastion, Sora struggled to keep the Keyblade. But just because he was pulling on it physically didn't help whatsoever. Remember how Leon tried to hold it, and it vanished back to Sora. If Riku was stronger in Heart than Sora, it would've been no use. It was Ven in his Heart pulling on it, wanting to keep it from doing harm. Unfortunately, he failed. He then got it back before facing Riku once more, now both the strength of Ven and Sora himself fighting back, realizing how much more power they have if they fight with friends along side them.

    When Ven reappeared in life as Roxas, he found no strength in his so-called 'friends', for he saw they belonged in Darkness, though they claim to belong to neither Light nor Darkness. Thus he left, broken inside of what had become of him: an object for the very thing he tried to annihilate.

    ...sorry if this seems a bit...ehh. I kinda had to rush in both my typing and my thinking. xDD -.-;
     
  4. Repliku Chaser

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    Sora cannot be a 'reincarnation' of Ven, considering Ven is on Destiny Islands at the same time Sora is 4 years old. A reincarnated being is normally someone that comes back from the dead into a new body that is born. It doesn't equate this way in the case with Ven and Sora.

    I tend to think more along the lines that Ven was hurt/wounded and made incomplete somehow and thus had to merge with Sora, or he made a decision to merge with Sora's spirit in order to help out in the future. Since Sora was a Heartless for only a short time and said himself in KH that he felt the memories 'beginning' to go away before Kairi helped him, Roxas did not end up with any memories. Roxas also was asked by Axel if he had a Heart and I believe in essence he at least had part of a Heart though he had 'no body' which made him a Nobody. He began having dreams of Sora because of his connection to Sora and Namine was messing with Sora's memories. Ven and Sora -may- be related in some way such as being a brother or cousin, because yes, I agree they do look somewhat alike.

    Also, Ven is an abbreviation of his name that is Ventus or something like that which means Wind. Sora means 'sky'. It's clear that the names of the characters from BBS and those of Kairi, Sora and Riku are all connected but the only one that seems to resemble someone else 'closely' is Ven to Sora, but I am not sure if that is intentional or just the way it turned out. I do think solidly though that Ven and Roxas are one in the same although Roxas is incomplete and therefore a part of Sora now.

    Also, Namine is -definitely- Kairi's Nobody. If you needed more proof than what exists easily there that the two merged together at the end of KH2, in KH2 when Namine is working on Roxas, Roxas connects to Kairi and Sora speaks through to Kairi because of the connection through Namine to her. They were very connected and I do not see how that point can be disputed. The 14th member may be either Aqua's 'Nobody' or some new female. Namine was -never- a member of the Organization. She was merely a hostage and considered to be less there than other Nobodies because of the state she was in and the fact Kairi never lost her 'body' as the other Nobodies had. Whoever the 14th member is, I am 99.9% sure it cannot be Namine as she was merely a prisoner to the Organization, particularly to Marluxia. I am also 100% sure Namine is Kairi's Nobody and the 14th member cannot possibly be that, with the evidence I posted above.
     
  5. JustANobody Twilight Town Denizen

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    WOT?!

    Explain yourself. How did you get in to this type of information? TT
     
  6. Trollfur Moogle Assistant

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    WOW! so, ven. Is he the person in the trailer for kingdom hearts3 that gets frozen?

    Man, I can't belive you put that whole thing together, AMAZING! i think that you are right.

    SHHEESE!

    WOW! so, ven. Is he the person in the trailer for kingdom hearts3 that gets frozen?

    Man, I can't belive you put that whole thing together, AMAZING! i think that you are right.

    SHHEESE!
     
  7. Quiet Elegy This is the death of beauty.

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    If you've been reading all the new information from the front page you wouldn't need to ask, there was a description of some of the trailers with information on new games coming out and that was part of one, the one for Birth By Sleep.
    Actually it's not Kingdom Hearts 3, it's a smaller game called Birth By Sleep.
     
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