Kingdom Hearts II Something Newly Discovered

This might change the way we think. I know it did for me.

If you look closely at the scene in the KH II FM+ secret ending,where Aqua catches Ven,check out his hair.

I know this has been debated before,but he looks exactly like Roxas.And I don't mean just because of the face,eyes,and hair color. Now it's the hair shape as well.

I have come up with a theory that I have probably posted a long time ago,but hear me out.

What if Ven,in a way,is Roxas? Like in a way Roxas is Sora?

If Nomura believed in reincarnation,then it could happen in his game.

Ven,Terra,and Aqua all fight Mr.Shiney. They lose,and the Darkness is created. Terra is taken over by the Darkness,Aqua vanishes,and Ven dies for he resists. He could have been reincarnated into the body and heart of Sora. In the beginning of KH I, Sora says

'I've been having...these weird thoughts lately...'

'Like,is any of this for real?Or not...'

What could that have been? Could it have been Ven's voice,in disbelief that he was able to experience life again,and only now realized it?

And why is Roxas's hair yellow,and in an entirely different shape than Sora's? Look at Ansem and Xemnas's hair. They are the same color,and the shape is alike.

But what about Roxas and Sora?

Ven could have been somewhere in Sora's Heart,and he left it when Sora gave up his Heart to free Kairi's.

Also,Ven was the youngest. He could have been 18,19,or maybe even 15. He was young,and that also adds on to my theory's evidence.

Plus,why is Roxas so mad at the world? He knows he's a Nobody,as do the rest of the Organization. They didn't want to leave,however.Only Roxas. It probably hurt the Ven side of him to find out that he had become a part of what he was trying to prevent.

I'd show you some screenshots,but I can't. I can't get a good picture when it's on a video player. >.> I'll look on YouTube.

Anyway,just that I would let you people know something that could help with theories. :3

 

I thought of the same idea when I first relized that the character's name is Ven. Maybe the power Terra senses in Sora when you fight him is somewhat the same to Ven's. Nobodies are said to ahve "minor" changers from their orginal being but sora's nobody got a complete makeover. Roxas's and Sora's eyes are the same, along with their facial expressions. Other than that I can't think of to much theyre the same look wise. Also they both use ALOT of hair gel... but dont all anime character lol...

 

Roxas and Sora share virtually the same face. The only real difference is their hair style and hair colour, really. It's really amazing how much hair can change how you look.

And while just a theory, it is very likely that Ven and Roxas may be related. They *do* look very similar, if not a mirror image. How they are related, however, we don't know.

 

I actually like this theory quite a bit, the thing that really hooked me was the part about the begining of KH1. Overall, it made a lot of sense, good job.

 

yeah, thats okay I guess, sorry if i seem hard but it just takes a lot to convince people

Actually, Ven has thought to be many people, even Xehanort. Nomura said that Ven is actually a nickname for a longer name. So take 3 letter of Xehanort (Xeh) then chop of the bottom half of the X (you get a V on top) keep the e, and then chop the top half of the h off (you get n) V-e-n

I'm just saying that there are so many things Ven could be, but we just don't know

 

Why,thank you Moodkip. ^-^

I have also just brought up another thing:

Why was Roxas able to weild the Keyblade?

Yes,yes,we all know he was Sora's Nobody.But the Keyblade goes to one with one of the strongest Hearts.

Roxas doesn't have a Heart. It might be Ven's side of Roxas that is still able to weild it.

I also have just taken three screen shots of said scene in my last post. Doesn't Ven look familiar?



Oh,but look at it upside down.




Look closely at the style of hair.




That's Ven,now look at Roxas's hair.





See? The EXACT SAME PERSON.

And if you look at the second screen shot,compare Ven's body to Aquas. He is incrediblly short compared to her. He is the youngest. And he was about to be the first to attack Shiney if Terra hadn't stopped him. That's Roxas for you.

Anything else one would like to know?

EDIT

God,I hate it when I do this. I suddenly realize things AFTER I say something else.

In Kingdom Hearts I, we all know that Riku was supposed to be the Keyblade weilder. But then it went to Sora after Riku was taken over by the Darkness.

Why Sora?

True,Sora had a strong Heart.But he was so young. It probably went because of the Ven inside of Sora's Heart,but it was drawn to Riku's own Heart at first.

In the semi-intro of KH II, we see two cloaked figures on a dead,deserted land. The taller one says

'I've been to see him. He looks a lot like you.'

At first,we all assume that he is talking about Sora. I know I did.

But when I really think about it...as far as I know,Xemnas has never met Sora before Hollow Bastion. So why would he be talking about him?

He was most likely meaning Ven. Look at the similarities. Whereas Sora and Roxas,to me personally,look almost nothing alike. True,the eyes and face were quite similar,but the hair bothered me. It made way to much of a difference.


So I still stand, Roxas is a reincarnation of Ven. Ven's spirit was probably recycled into the body and Heart of another (probably into the Heart of Sora,before he was born) because he was so young and so pure. So yes.

 

Maybe Ven's spirit had to be sent to Sora's body.. I mean he is pretty badly beat up in this trailer theres no doubt to that. Fired, Frozen, attacked with keyblades, helmet crushed, fell from a cliff... maybe the only way to save him after this attack was for this soul to gain a new "vessel" and he went to sora or something... also theres the Room Of Awakening mentioned in the one video where the "other friend may sleep" so who knows if the room of awakening was really like the the pillars that both sora and roxas visit... and isnt of the stations even called "The Station of Awakening"???

Also there is the whole "Birth By Sleep" Maybe Ven was put to sleep in the whatever Room, then Sora just happened to be born or sometihing i dont know if that makes sense or not.. sorry

 

I have heard a lot of theories trying to link the game characters but this is my favourite so far, it's well thought out and backed up. I have to say I am impressed. It makes a lot of sense and is actually quite believable. ^^​

 

Lawl. A lot of hair gel.

Also, Xemnas met Sora in Hollow Bastion. He appeared as a cloaked person, in the FM version. He said a bunch of junk in Japanse, then you battled him.

 

Ahh,that's true. I don't have any of the FM+'s,so I didn't remember that. xD

Yes,but even then,Sora looked nothing like Roxas. Look.





See?

 

I really like this theory, JustANobody.....it's gotten me thinking...

I agree with you 100% on this...and I usually don't agree with people on their theories....anyways, good job! ^^

 

Whoa. I feel special. 8D

Haha,thanks! It really hurt my brain,though. x.x

 

This theory makes a lot of sense.

In KH2 when you fight Xigbar he says something along the lines of:

You look so much weaker than the others. (I dont remember exactly >.<)


Maybe he ment Sora looked so much weaker than Ven. I dunno >.>

 

Actually, about Ven being a nickname, it is a nickname for "Ventus," the Latin word for wind. Just as Terra is Latin for earth and Aqua, for water.

 

I agree. Plus the whole 'chop the X in half and you get the V' thing doesn't exactly work. >.>

 

this theory makes perfect sense and i just got pat the jungle in kh1 the other day and it could explain why one of the slides has a castle on it that sora finds familiar and at that point he had never been to castle before.

 

No offense, but you just realized their hair was the same?

I like the theory. The only thing I can say against it, other than my own theories is that Sora and Roxas do look quite a bit the same:

You can see that Roxas' hair is just a bit shorter and a bit lighter. And Xemans and Xehanort may have the same hair color, but their skin tone is a bit off to make up for it.

 

I meant in the first KH, Sora and Roxas look nothing alike. In KH II,they look alike for their face and eyes. Read. >.>

It's not just the color for Xemnas and Ansem (I said Ansem. >> ).Their shape is the same,and their skin tone is very much alike.

And yes,I discovered that Ven and Roxas are identical just yesterday. If you were talking about Ven's and Roxas's hair,for the 'bit shorter and a bit lighter',thing,you're forgetting something.

Ven only appeared in the Secret Ending,where the quality and graphics were awesome. Roxas was mostly just in the actual game,where the graphics weren't as good. Therefore the color and size would be altered a bit.

 

Like I said... Ven could ahve been infused into Sora's heart, and when he released it. Ven's heart was released too. But into Sora's Nobody... Thus the Nobody took the form Ven. Sigh... Mickey the Mouse probably knows... he saw the whole thing... sigh stupid mouse never tells us anything anymore...

 

That's basically what I said. D: